# CIA Behind September 11? **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [April 30, 2002, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cia-behind-september-11/106569 "2002-04-30T22:28:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2002, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cia-behind-september-11/106569/41 "2002-05-01T18:43:18Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by leighanimate \* > It’s not the Reptilians I’m worried about, it’s the Republicans. I worry about the Republicans too, but even I don’t think they were behind the 9/11 attacks. The Florida election hijack, sure, but that’s a different tin-foil hat… ---
**Author:** ![leighanimate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ccd318/32.png) [@leighanimate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leighanimate)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2002, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cia-behind-september-11/106569/42 "2002-05-01T18:53:47Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by jarbabyj \* > \*\*I have a serious question, since I can’t really successfully wade through all the stuff you’ve provided for us to read. > > Why would they do it? What’s to be gained from killing that many American citizens, causing the economy to go on a roller coaster, that’s extended this far from the fact (the NYSE took a huge dive after that explosion in New York last week, people are on eggshells with their money)? > > I don’t even think oil would be that important. \*\* A pipeline through Afghanistan [http://www.oilandgasinternational.com/departments/from\_editor/10\_29\_01.html](http://www.oilandgasinternational.com/departments/from_editor/10_29_01.html) Here’s the National Enquirer tying Enron to the pipeline/Taliban/Afghanistan deal: [http://entertainment.yahoo.com/entnews/ne/20020304/101525400002.html](http://entertainment.yahoo.com/entnews/ne/20020304/101525400002.html) Some say that’s why Dick Cheney doesn’t want the Energy notes released. Then there’s increased military spending (Carlyle Group). Then there’s the benefits of having a subserviant, obedient (terrified) nation willing to forego basic liberties and stand behind whatever the president say$. Lots to be gained by people to whom being a billionaire just isn’t enough. ---
**Author:** ![airdisc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e19adc/32.png) [@airdisc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/airdisc)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2002, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cia-behind-september-11/106569/43 "2002-05-01T18:57:41Z")
When people blame their own government for a major tragedy, only Og can save. OG SMASH!!! ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2002, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cia-behind-september-11/106569/44 "2002-05-01T19:04:19Z")
Nitrous Oxide. That’s the only thing that can exdplain this thread. :wally ---
**Author:** ![Kilt-wearin\_man](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/82dd89/32.png) [@Kilt-wearin\_man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kilt-wearin_man)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2002, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cia-behind-september-11/106569/45 "2002-05-01T19:05:54Z")
The mere fact that you have linked to a National Enquirer story as “evidence” shoots holes in every theory you will ever post, as far as I’m concerned. Next you’ll be telling us that the Bat Boy was involved. ---
**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2002, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cia-behind-september-11/106569/46 "2002-05-01T19:10:17Z")
Not bat boy. He uses his power for good. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2002, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cia-behind-september-11/106569/47 "2002-05-01T19:14:01Z")
Does anyone have a handy estimate for how much it would cost to run the pipeline around Afghanistan? I have to think that it’d be cheaper than the terrorist attacks and their implications. And if Gary Condit was supposed to be a smoke screen, why the heck did that scandal hit _before_ the attacks? On September 12, _nobody_ was talking about Levy and Condit. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2002, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cia-behind-september-11/106569/48 "2002-05-01T19:14:52Z")
The Bat boy was involved? _AAAAAHHHHHHH!!!_ ---
**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2002, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cia-behind-september-11/106569/49 "2002-05-01T19:31:43Z")
All conspiracy theories involving two or more peopl are wrong. Coincidence does not equal correlation. In fact, if there were no connections, then that would be more troubling. Coincidences are NORMAL and are supposed to be abundant in everyday occurrances. Coincidences are always meaningless in proving conspiracy theories. If you don’t catch the conspiracy perps red-handed, ya got nothin’. Extraordinary claims call for extraordinarry evidence – and really, even better evidence than etraordinary. A mere preponderence of meaningless coincidences establishes less than nothing. ---
**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2002, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cia-behind-september-11/106569/50 "2002-05-01T19:34:47Z")
Excuse my spelling - I was in a hurry ---
**Author:** ![RiverRunner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/977dab/32.png) [@RiverRunner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RiverRunner)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2002, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cia-behind-september-11/106569/51 "2002-05-01T19:41:51Z")
OK, tin-foil hats I get. Og smash I get. But Bat-boy? Eh? RR ---
**Author:** ![Largo62](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/45deac/32.png) [@Largo62](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Largo62)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2002, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cia-behind-september-11/106569/52 "2002-05-01T19:54:57Z")
Why is this thread in GQ anyway? It’s such an obvious troll it should be pitched into the Pit by the mods, if not into the pile with the government coverup of space aliens held like Guantanimo detainees in Area 51 (or is that Club 54?). Puh-leeeze!:rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![leighanimate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ccd318/32.png) [@leighanimate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leighanimate)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2002, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cia-behind-september-11/106569/53 "2002-05-01T20:46:01Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by bordelond \* > \*\*All conspiracy theories involving two or more peopl are wrong. \*\* But wait a second…the official version of the 9/11 story involves a “conspiracy” involving how many people? At least 21, if you count Osama and Moussaoui. And you know there were more than that. So that “conspiracy theories involving two or more people are wrong” doesn’t wash. No matter who bought and paid for this hit, it was a conspiracy of massive purportions. ---
**Author:** ![minty\_green](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f6c823/32.png) [@minty\_green](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/minty_green)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2002, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cia-behind-september-11/106569/54 "2002-05-01T20:58:36Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by RiverRunner \* > But Bat-boy? Eh? What, don’t you ever go to the supermarket? [Bat Boy](http://www.weeklyworldnews.com/batboy/index.cfm) is a recurring character in the Weekly World News. But **leighanimate** can’t blame Bat Boy for 9/11, because [Bat Boy endorsed Al Gore](http://www.weeklyworldnews.com/batboy/batboy.cfm?instanceid=10607). Hey everybody, it’s [Bat Boy: The Musical](http://www.batboy-themusical.com/)! ---
**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2002, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cia-behind-september-11/106569/55 "2002-05-01T21:27:13Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by leighanimate \* > \*\* > > But wait a second…the official version of the 9/11 story involves a “conspiracy” involving how many people? At least 21, if you count Osama and Moussaoui. And you know there were more than that. So that “conspiracy theories involving two or more people are wrong” doesn’t wash. > > No matter who bought and paid for this hit, it was a conspiracy of massive purportions. \*\* I concede that conspiracies happen (mega rarely) … yet conspiracy theories where no evidence sticks to anyone are BS. Seems contradictory? Think about it for a while. ---
**Author:** ![jb\_farley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9d8465/32.png) [@jb\_farley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jb_farley)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2002, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cia-behind-september-11/106569/56 "2002-05-01T21:32:06Z")
to be fair, everyone, **leighanimate** has a valid point. it does not reflect well on GQ to have a thread with two pages, and no real answers to specifically posed questions (but a lot of heckling and put-downs). ooh, _The Natonal Enquirer_!? let’s ignore a cite because it came from the national enquirer? i understand it’s not the friggen Post, but (as many pundits and wags have noted in the last, say, decade) there is nowadays a blurred Venn overlap between tabloid style media and ‘reputable’ style media. and the National Enquirer has broken many a story, or gotten a great lead in a stroy, and made news for doing so. so don’t poo-poo a cite because it came from the National Enquirer. jb ---
**Author:** ![minty\_green](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f6c823/32.png) [@minty\_green](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/minty_green)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2002, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cia-behind-september-11/106569/57 "2002-05-01T21:45:02Z")
To be fair to those who openly scoff, **jb\_farley** , **leighanimate** has not given us very much material to deal with. The question is about one notch below something as broad as “Do the Illuminati control the world?” If he thinks the CIA and/or GWB are behind 9/11, perhaps it would be appropriate for him to give us something rather more specific to deal with than just a bunch of links to conspiracy web sites and third-rate journalism? Come on, where are we even supposed to start with that mess? So far, I don’t think he’s stated any evidence whatsoever that ties the CIA to 9/11, just a bunch of rhetoric about how he doesn’t trust the Bush family and the CIA, plus a bunch of links **leigh** , if you have a specific question reasonably capable of being addressed in a forum such as this, how about asking just that? If you can’t be bothered to be specific, then don’t be surprised if the people who respond to you aren’t specific either. ---
**Author:** ![bdgr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a87d85/32.png) [@bdgr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bdgr)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2002, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cia-behind-september-11/106569/58 "2002-05-01T21:51:34Z")
No, I’m sorry, cites from the National Enquirer are automatically poo poo’ed. Rush Limbaugh is right about half the time, but because he lies the other half you cant depend on what he says being true. Same with the enquirer. If they say the sky is blue, I would require another cite to back it up, because anything they say is suspect. ---
**Author:** ![Punoqllads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@Punoqllads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Punoqllads)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2002, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cia-behind-september-11/106569/59 "2002-05-01T22:34:29Z")
If **leigh** wants to posit that the CIA was behind the 9/11 bombing of the twin towers, it would behoove him/her to tie someone in oh, say, the CIA to someone involved in oh, say, the 9/11 bombings. Merely pointing to conspiracy pages that allege the US military industrial complex is insanely afraid of, horrors, an oil pipeline being built through Russia — God knows they need the money, so we don’t see a Eurasian redux of Argentina in two years — will not cut the mustard. I mean, even the October Suprise theorists can point to documentation of CIA agent George Bush going to Paris in the right time frame. And that’s big-time tinfoil territory in my book. ---
**Author:** ![Punoqllads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@Punoqllads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Punoqllads)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2002, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cia-behind-september-11/106569/60 "2002-05-01T22:35:35Z")
If **leigh** wants to posit that the CIA was behind the 9/11 bombing of the twin towers, it would behoove him/her to tie someone in oh, say, the CIA to someone involved in oh, say, the 9/11 bombings. Merely pointing to conspiracy pages that allege the US military industrial complex is insanely afraid of, horrors, an oil pipeline being built through Russia — God knows they need the money, so we don’t see a Eurasian redux of Argentina in two years — will not cut the mustard. I mean, even the October Surprise theorists can point to documentation of CIA agent George Bush going to Paris in the right time frame. And that’s big-time tinfoil territory in my book. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cia-behind-september-11/106569.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cia-behind-september-11/106569.md?page=4)