# Cincinnati Area Dopers- The British Isles Fest!

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [May 15, 2003, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cincinnati-area-dopers-the-british-isles-fest/175449 "2003-05-15T15:07:18Z")\
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**Author:** ![Rue\_DeDay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/41988e/32.png) [@Rue\_DeDay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rue_DeDay)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2003, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cincinnati-area-dopers-the-british-isles-fest/175449/1 "2003-05-15T15:07:18Z")

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First: Don’t get started about Ireland not being British. I don’t want to hear it.

Second: The [link](http://www.britishislesfest.com/).

Third: For the love of little kittens, not quaint. Just not.

So, the British Isles Fest is next month. That would be June 14th and 15th. Anyone interested in meeting up? Saturday about 11:00 at the bridge? Whaddaya say people?

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**Author:** ![garius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e19b73/32.png) [@garius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garius)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2003, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cincinnati-area-dopers-the-british-isles-fest/175449/2 "2003-05-15T15:57:22Z")

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**swinging cricket bat menacingly**

go on then one of you - fake an English accent i dare you…

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**Author:** ![yojimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yojimbo/32/232_2.png) [@yojimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yojimbo)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2003, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cincinnati-area-dopers-the-british-isles-fest/175449/3 "2003-05-15T16:08:49Z")

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Ireland is not a part …  
only kidding 🙂 have a good one

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**Author:** ![garius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e19b73/32.png) [@garius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garius)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2003, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cincinnati-area-dopers-the-british-isles-fest/175449/4 "2003-05-15T16:18:14Z")

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i’d be intrigued to know what alcohol is served - particularly ales-wise.

so if one of the attendees wouldn’t mind posting a list after the event i’d be a very happy bunny… 🙂

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2003, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cincinnati-area-dopers-the-british-isles-fest/175449/5 "2003-05-15T16:56:02Z")

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Well, I meant to do this last year, but something came up, or I forgot. Now it’s in my calendar, but I need to check and make sure that neither of the Shibletts has a soccer, er, football, game that time. Otherwise count us in **Rue**. I assume that you are bringing the boys?

And don’t worry, **garius** , I’ll give you a full account of the ales, lagers, etc. Anything in particular that you’re looking for?

: heads off to the link to see what he just signed on for :

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**Author:** ![pingalondon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/67e7ee/32.png) [@pingalondon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pingalondon)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2003, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cincinnati-area-dopers-the-british-isles-fest/175449/6 "2003-05-15T17:06:27Z")

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Can anyone enlighten me please on the ‘Welsh Cookies’, is this a delicacy I have been missing out on?

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**Author:** ![Rue\_DeDay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/41988e/32.png) [@Rue\_DeDay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rue_DeDay)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2003, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cincinnati-area-dopers-the-british-isles-fest/175449/7 "2003-05-15T22:14:34Z")

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Where were you when Kevin Costner was pretending to be Robin Hood **garius**? We sure could have used you and your cricket bat then.

About a 50% chance Soupo’s coming **Shibb**. We’ll see what we see about Katcha. But the whole thing is quite family-friendly. (They even wear shorts under their kilts for the heavy athletics.)

The “Welsh Cookies” were “Welsh _Miners’_ Cookies” **pingalondon**. I’m sure that will clear things right up.

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2003, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cincinnati-area-dopers-the-british-isles-fest/175449/8 "2003-05-16T03:26:08Z")

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Why are underaged Welsh kids’ cookies going to be on sale there? If we come it will be with both of the Shibblets. But I think I’ll keep them away from the cookies and the kilts just to be safe. Still not sure if there is kiddie footie that weekend. I’m sure it will be sweltering hot though, just on GP.

Also, on a huge tangent, I was at the newly opened Hofbrauhaus in Newport this evening. Just for a looksie. But we may go back this weekend for dinner if you’re interested. They even have a kids menu. And a biergarten.

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**Author:** ![garius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e19b73/32.png) [@garius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garius)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2003, 9:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cincinnati-area-dopers-the-british-isles-fest/175449/9 "2003-05-16T09:52:20Z")

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> _Originally posted by Rue DeDay_  
> **Anything in particular that you’re looking for?**

Not really, i’m just interested to see what gets served, since the vast majority of alcohol drunk here in Britain isn’t native anyway (fosters, grolsch, kroney, etc.). You generally have to dig quite deep down into publand to find decent ales and stuff.

So i’m just intrigued as to what will appear there. I’m guessing that Newky Brown and Guinness will be well represented but i’d love to know if any real ales turn up (can’t help it - its the [CAMRA](http://www.camra.org.uk/) memeber in me. 🙂

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> _Originally posted by Rue DeDay_  
> **Where were you when Kevin Costner was pretending to be Robin Hood garius? We sure could have used you and your cricket bat then.**

busy being 11 years old and innocently believing that there was nothing wrong with Robin Hood sounding American 🙂

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**Author:** ![Tansu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/67e7ee/32.png) [@Tansu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tansu)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2003, 10:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cincinnati-area-dopers-the-british-isles-fest/175449/10 "2003-05-16T10:32:50Z")

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Welsh cookies might be welshcakes. Biscuity sconey cakey cookiey things cooked on a griddle.

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2003, 11:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cincinnati-area-dopers-the-british-isles-fest/175449/11 "2003-05-16T11:02:17Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Tansu \*  
> \*\*Biscuity sconey cakey cookiey things cooked on a griddle. \*\*

I hope that doesn’t mean that they’re four times as expensive. Do they taste any good?

As for the beers here, since Guiness and Newcastle are sponsoring, I’d expect to see a heavy presence from both. But it does promise stuff from Scotland, Ireland, England and Wales (what, no Isle of Wight?), so I hope there’s something I’ve not had before. I doubt that whatever it is will be totally obscure since it would be difficult to get over without someone normally importing the stuff.

For **Tansu** , **garius** and whomever else might wish to chime in from over there, what sort of ales or lagers do you normally drink that might have a chance to make it over here?

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2003, 11:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cincinnati-area-dopers-the-british-isles-fest/175449/12 "2003-05-16T11:17:28Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Rue DeDay \*  
> \*\*First: Don’t get started about Ireland not being British. I don’t want to hear it. \*\*

That’s cool actually - since they labelled Northern Ireland with the tricolour, I think they’ve distributed the potential offense quite evenly…!

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2003, 11:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cincinnati-area-dopers-the-british-isles-fest/175449/13 "2003-05-16T11:20:25Z")

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I believe the password to the event is Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch. Anyone who mispronounces this gets their hands chopped off.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_Wright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@Steve\_Wright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_Wright)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2003, 11:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cincinnati-area-dopers-the-british-isles-fest/175449/14 "2003-05-16T11:22:36Z")

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I note a singular dearth of Morris dancers. Why no Morris dancers?

And these Border Collie Demonstrations of which you speak … do you mean sheepdog trials, by any chance?

**ShibbOleth** , the last Traditional English drinking binge I was on involved Theakston’s Old Peculier. A fluid which I commend to your attention.

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**Author:** ![everton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ecb155/32.png) [@everton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/everton)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2003, 11:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cincinnati-area-dopers-the-british-isles-fest/175449/15 "2003-05-16T11:36:16Z")

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> \*Originally posted by ShibbOleth \*  
> \*\*As for the beers here, since Guiness and Newcastle are sponsoring, I’d expect to see a heavy presence from both.
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> …what sort of ales or lagers do you normally drink that might have a chance to make it over here? \*\*

[Scottish & Newcastle](http://www.scottish-newcastle.com/) have brands including Theakston’s, Kilkenny, Courage, John Smith and McEwan’s. Beer’s a subjective thing to appreciate, but I’d personally recommended the Theakston’s.

Guinness is part of the vast [Diageo group](http://www.transnationale.org/anglais/fiches/1248616368.htm). Their range of brands is large, but I wouldn’t bother looking past the black stuff myself.

[Here’s a recipe](http://www.lysator.liu.se/etexts/recept/si/welshcakes.html) for Welshcakes.

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2003, 11:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cincinnati-area-dopers-the-british-isles-fest/175449/16 "2003-05-16T11:45:57Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Steve Wright \*  
> \*\*I note a singular dearth of Morris dancers. Why no Morris dancers? \*\*

I used to play mandolin for our local Oxfordshire Morris side. Fact.

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**Author:** ![Pjen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Pjen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pjen)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2003, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cincinnati-area-dopers-the-british-isles-fest/175449/17 "2003-05-16T11:55:55Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Steve Wright \*  
> \*\*I note a singular dearth of Morris dancers. Why no Morris dancers?
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> \*\*

“You should make a point of trying everything once, excepting incest and folk-dancing”  
Sir Arnold Bax (1883-1953), quoting a ‘sympathetic Scotsman’ in “Farewell, My Youth” (1943)

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**Author:** ![Steve\_Wright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@Steve\_Wright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_Wright)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2003, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cincinnati-area-dopers-the-british-isles-fest/175449/18 "2003-05-16T12:12:04Z")

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The Morris dancers were actually out in force one evening last week, as I was waiting by the scout hall for the last bus home.

One of them looked singularly unimpressed by the whole thing … he had exactly the facial expression I would have, if I had to prance around in a flowery hat flipping handkerchiefs at people.

**jjimm** … words fail me.

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**Author:** ![Brynda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e79b87/32.png) [@Brynda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brynda)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2003, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cincinnati-area-dopers-the-british-isles-fest/175449/19 "2003-05-16T12:43:04Z")

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Getting back to the OP (for just a minute, I promise), I wanted to let you know that **RickQ** and I are thinking about driving down there to go to this. Rick is British, so a bit of home sounds like fun to him. He is not, however, the type to say, “oh, that’s not really how we do it” so no worries on that score.

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**Author:** ![garius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e19b73/32.png) [@garius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garius)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2003, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cincinnati-area-dopers-the-british-isles-fest/175449/20 "2003-05-16T13:01:39Z")

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> \*Originally posted by ShibbOleth \*  
> \*\*For **Tansu** , **garius** and whomever else might wish to chime in from over there, what sort of ales or lagers do you normally drink that might have a chance to make it over here? \*\*

**Spitfire** willl almost certainly make an appearance. If you are incredibly lucky and have any kind of beer tent then hunt for anything by the woodfordes brewery - particularly **Nelsons Revenge** and **Norfolk Nog**.

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