# Cindy Sheehan is a toolbag. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 1, 2006, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cindy-sheehan-is-a-toolbag/342454 "2006-02-01T02:24:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2006, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cindy-sheehan-is-a-toolbag/342454/141 "2006-02-01T20:28:58Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > And the Congressman is [pitching a fit](http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/01/31/sheehan.arrest/index.html) on the floor of the House today. I’d be more impressed if, in his quoted remarks, he had also defended Sheehan’s right to wear a political t-shirt. one wonders where all this concern for decorum and proper behavior in the hallowed halls of Congress were when Cheany spit out that “fuck you” a while back. ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2006, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cindy-sheehan-is-a-toolbag/342454/142 "2006-02-01T20:30:04Z")
> [@wring](#): > > one wonders where all this concern for decorum and proper behavior in the hallowed halls of Congress were when Cheany spit out that “fuck you” a while back. It was all over the news. Are you kidding? That got hammered for a lot longer than this will. ---
**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2006, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cindy-sheehan-is-a-toolbag/342454/143 "2006-02-01T20:30:22Z")
> [@Airman Doors](#): > > . It was someone being a butthead where she shouldn’t have, and she paid for it by being shown the door. so, she’s at this rally, wearing appropriate attire for it, at the last minute gets an invite somewhere else - and this made her a butthead 'cause she was wearing a tshirt? ---
**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2006, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cindy-sheehan-is-a-toolbag/342454/144 "2006-02-01T20:32:13Z")
> [@Airman Doors](#): > > It was all over the news. Are you kidding? That got hammered for a lot longer than this will. really? I don’t recall Cheany being censured by Congress, nor being escorted from the halls in handcuffs, nor facing criminal charges. And IIRC there was no shortage of pundits suggesting that 'twas no big deal, he’s a man’s man after all. ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2006, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cindy-sheehan-is-a-toolbag/342454/145 "2006-02-01T20:32:51Z")
> [@wring](#): > > so, she’s at this rally, wearing appropriate attire for it, at the last minute gets an invite somewhere else - and this made her a butthead 'cause she was wearing a tshirt? No, because she took off her outershirt to display the t-shirt. ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2006, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cindy-sheehan-is-a-toolbag/342454/146 "2006-02-01T20:34:35Z")
> [@wring](#): > > really? I don’t recall Cheany being censured by Congress, nor being escorted from the halls in handcuffs, nor facing criminal charges. And IIRC there was no shortage of pundits suggesting that 'twas no big deal, he’s a man’s man after all. And so it is with this. There’s no shortage of apologists for Cindy Sheehan, as evidenced by this thread. Should Cheney have gotten his hand slapped like she did? Absolutely. ---
**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2006, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cindy-sheehan-is-a-toolbag/342454/147 "2006-02-01T20:37:31Z")
**Gasp** _she wore a tshirt, the horrors!_ [she took off her **coat**](http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11120353/) ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2006, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cindy-sheehan-is-a-toolbag/342454/148 "2006-02-01T20:39:39Z")
We’ll just have to agree to disagree. ---
**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2006, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cindy-sheehan-is-a-toolbag/342454/149 "2006-02-01T20:40:07Z")
> [@Airman Doors](#): > > And so it is with this. There’s no shortage of apologists for Cindy Sheehan, as evidenced by this thread. > > Should Cheney have gotten his hand slapped like she did? Absolutely. Cheney **didn’t**. not even close. that’s the point **Airman**. I don’t buy the whole ‘hallowed halls’ arguement for that very reason. Certainly it would/should be considered more disruptive for one elected official to say “fuck you” to another inside the chambers than for a member of the public to quietly wear a shirt they’d worn eariler that day that merely pointed out a fact (albiet one that the administration would rather folks not focus on). ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2006, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cindy-sheehan-is-a-toolbag/342454/150 "2006-02-01T20:41:52Z")
> [@Airman Doors](#): > > Absolutely. There is a time and a place for everything, and that is not the time or the place for any of that nonsense. Why not? Were lives at stake? Was the President performing brain surgery? Could the President even see those T-shirts from his podium? In what way did those T-shirts disrupt the speech or prevent the Prez from talking? Does the ist Amendment specify a time and place for when you can wear a T-shirt that the Presoident doesn’t like? I think it’s an outrage that either of these women were arrested. ---
**Author:** ![Duke\_of\_Rat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Duke\_of\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke_of_Rat)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2006, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cindy-sheehan-is-a-toolbag/342454/151 "2006-02-01T20:42:28Z")
> [@vibrotronica](#): > > Yesterday, in the United States of America, a woman was arrested for the message she had on her t-shirt. What was the message? It was the number of soldiers who had been killed in Iraq. > > Think about that for a moment. Yep, moment’s up. I think I could wear the exact same t-shirt today and not be arrested. The difference? I’m not wearing it in the gallery of the SOTU Address, mebbe? How about if I didn’t wear a shirt at all during the SOTU? Reckon I’d be arrested with no slogan? Would _that_ be disruptive? ---
**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2006, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cindy-sheehan-is-a-toolbag/342454/152 "2006-02-01T20:42:45Z")
> [@Airman Doors](#): > > We’ll just have to agree to disagree. on what? if she’d been wearing the tshirt earlier that day? if she was taking off a coat (which is appropriate indoors). ---
**Author:** ![NurseCarmen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5daacb/32.png) [@NurseCarmen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NurseCarmen)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2006, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cindy-sheehan-is-a-toolbag/342454/153 "2006-02-01T20:46:14Z")
> [@Airman Doors](#): > > No, because she took off her outershirt to display the t-shirt. If you look at [this](http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/01/30/AR2006013001319.html) picture that was taken earlier in the day, I’d have to say that ‘outershirt’ is a ‘jacket’. How DARE she take her jacket off indoors! ---
**Author:** ![Duke\_of\_Rat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Duke\_of\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke_of_Rat)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2006, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cindy-sheehan-is-a-toolbag/342454/154 "2006-02-01T20:46:24Z")
> [@wring](#): > > on what? if she’d been wearing the tshirt earlier that day? I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s the only thing she ever wears. Updated, of course, to accurately reflect the death toll of the day. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2006, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cindy-sheehan-is-a-toolbag/342454/155 "2006-02-01T20:48:03Z")
> [@Airman Doors](#): > > And so it is with this. There’s no shortage of apologists for Cindy Sheehan, as evidenced by this thread. This is bullshit. Defending the principle of free speech does not equal an endorsement of the speech itself or an apology for the invidual. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2006, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cindy-sheehan-is-a-toolbag/342454/156 "2006-02-01T20:50:39Z")
> [@Duke of Rat](#): > > Yep, moment’s up. > > I think I could wear the exact same t-shirt today and not be arrested. The difference? I’m not wearing it in the gallery of the SOTU Address, mebbe? Show me where the Constitution says that makes a difference. > [@](#): > > How about if I didn’t wear a shirt at all during the SOTU? Reckon I’d be arrested with no slogan? Would _that_ be disruptive? How is this analogous? ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2006, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cindy-sheehan-is-a-toolbag/342454/157 "2006-02-01T20:52:16Z")
An amusing quote from Congressman Young about his wife: [quote=“She has a real passion for our troops, and she shows it in many, many ways,” Young said.[/quote] [Insert joke HERE] ---
**Author:** ![Duke\_of\_Rat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Duke\_of\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke_of_Rat)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2006, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cindy-sheehan-is-a-toolbag/342454/158 "2006-02-01T20:59:00Z")
> [@Diogenes the Cynic](#): > > Show me where the Constitution says that makes a difference. Ask the Capitol Police. I’m certain they wouldn’t arrest me if I wore the same shirt Sheehan did if I was say, walking down Pennsylvania Avenue. Maybe it’s a dress code issue? Seems like another lady wearing a t-shirt had a run of bad luck in that same venue. > [@](#): > > How is this analogous? If you are not properly dressed for the event, it would appear that you don’t get to hang around too long. I’ll wager a night in jail that I could go shirtless at the next SOTU and make no political remarks at all, and I would not be allowed to stay. I’ll go even further, I bet the same night in jail that a plain white t-shirt would be enough to get me booted. You can’t even get into a nice nightclub with a plain white t-shirt, it wouldn’t surprise me if the same held true at the SOTU. ---
**Author:** ![NurseCarmen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5daacb/32.png) [@NurseCarmen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NurseCarmen)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2006, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cindy-sheehan-is-a-toolbag/342454/159 "2006-02-01T21:01:26Z")
> [@Airman Doors](#): > > And so it is with this. There’s no shortage of apologists for Cindy Sheehan, as evidenced by this thread. As DtC said, it isn’t about her. As I stated earlier, I think she’s a goof, a one-trick pony. But even the case law supports her. As for those who suggested she go shirtless, might I just say this. Ick. I’d rather see Dick Cheney shirtless, at least he’d have some interesting scars. ---
**Author:** ![Blalron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/35a633/32.png) [@Blalron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blalron)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2006, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cindy-sheehan-is-a-toolbag/342454/160 "2006-02-01T21:15:41Z")
Could somebody who’s siding with the jack booted government thugs in this case please, PLEASE cite the LAW that Cindy was violating? Case and code number please, with a link. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cindy-sheehan-is-a-toolbag/342454.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cindy-sheehan-is-a-toolbag/342454.md?page=9)