# Circumcised First Names

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/circumcised-first-names/490831>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [March 26, 2009, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/circumcised-first-names/490831 "2009-03-26T02:49:53Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2009, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/circumcised-first-names/490831/41 "2009-03-27T13:11:30Z")

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Or “Ion”

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**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2009, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/circumcised-first-names/490831/42 "2009-03-27T13:21:48Z")

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Enis?

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2009, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/circumcised-first-names/490831/43 "2009-03-27T13:41:51Z")

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On an episode of Roseanne it was revealed that Jackie’s first name was originally “Marjorie” but three year old Roseanne prounced it “My Jackie” and it stuck. Then her mother says “Or was it Mary Jane,” leading Jackie to say “You don’t remember my real first name?”

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**Author:** ![An\_Gadai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@An\_Gadai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Gadai)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2009, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/circumcised-first-names/490831/44 "2009-03-27T13:49:53Z")

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> [@Snooooopy](#):
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> Liam Neeson, born (Wil)liam. Liam Gallagher also comes to mind.

Mad, in all my years I never connected the name Liam to William. Like other diminutives it is sometimes given as a stand alone first name.

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**Author:** ![RiverRunner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/977dab/32.png) [@RiverRunner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RiverRunner)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2009, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/circumcised-first-names/490831/45 "2009-03-27T13:57:28Z")

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> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#):
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> Wonder if Moon Unit, Dweezil, and Ahmed will change their names to Unit, Zil, and Med?

Nit, ill, and Ed?

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2009, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/circumcised-first-names/490831/46 "2009-03-27T14:14:40Z")

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Would we recognize, much less worship, these:

Vis  
Lina  
Ris  
Zel  
Nardo  
Dith  
Tin  
Lon

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**Author:** ![Sigmagirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c89c15/32.png) [@Sigmagirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sigmagirl)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2009, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/circumcised-first-names/490831/47 "2009-03-27T14:14:54Z")

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No celebrity cites, but “Seph” is picking up as a truncated version of Joseph.

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**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2009, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/circumcised-first-names/490831/48 "2009-03-27T14:33:11Z")

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Blogger [zefrank](http://www.zefrank.com/) (zay-frank) was born Hosea Frank.

Italian nicknames are often back-end diminutives: Giuseppe-\>Giuseppino-\>Pino, Antonio-\>Antonino-\>Nino.

> [@Zeldar](#):
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> Dith

I knew a Meredith once who was considering styling herself Dith. She decided it sounded too much like _death_. She eventually became Mitzi.

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2009, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/circumcised-first-names/490831/49 "2009-03-27T14:42:29Z")

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Mary Louise Streep should have been mentioned before now. She became Meryl

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**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2009, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/circumcised-first-names/490831/50 "2009-03-27T14:43:27Z")

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Oh, and actress [ZaSu Pitts](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0686032/) was born Eli **za Su** san Pitts.

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**Author:** ![Snooooopy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Snooooopy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snooooopy)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2009, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/circumcised-first-names/490831/51 "2009-03-27T17:54:49Z")

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> [@An\_Gadai](#):
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> Mad, in all my years I never connected the name Liam to William. Like other diminutives it is sometimes given as a stand alone first name.

Oh, yeah, me neither. I was just fooling around on Wikipedia, reading the entry on the recently deceased actress Natasha Richardson when I clicked onto the entry for Liam Neeson, her husband.

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**Author:** ![mobo85](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b19c9b/32.png) [@mobo85](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mobo85)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2009, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/circumcised-first-names/490831/52 "2009-03-27T18:01:10Z")

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> [@Annie-Xmas](#):
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> Drew Carey’s full name is Drew Allison Carey. WTF were his parents thinking?

This was actually referenced on an episode of _The Drew Carey Show_, with Mimi responding something like “Drew Allison Carey? All three of your names are girl’s names!”

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**Author:** ![palindromemordnilap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/db5fbb/32.png) [@palindromemordnilap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/palindromemordnilap)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2009, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/circumcised-first-names/490831/53 "2009-03-27T19:54:24Z")

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> [@Enderw24](#):
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> Enis?

favorite

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2009, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/circumcised-first-names/490831/54 "2009-03-27T20:12:31Z")

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> [@Beware\_of\_Doug](#):
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> Oh, and actress [ZaSu Pitts](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0686032/) was born Eli **za Su** san Pitts.

Wow, I always thought that was just random name made up for _Bored of the Rings_

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2009, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/circumcised-first-names/490831/55 "2009-03-27T20:15:50Z")

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> [@Sigmagirl](#):
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> No celebrity cites, but “Seph” is picking up as a truncated version of Joseph.

Sepp Blatter, who is fairly famous (and notorious) as the head of FIFA, world football’s controlling body, is fully named Joseph S. Blatter. He’s also not exactly young.

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2009, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/circumcised-first-names/490831/56 "2009-03-28T12:14:58Z")

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Anni-Frid Lyngstad is better known as Frida, the redhead from ABBA

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**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2009, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/circumcised-first-names/490831/57 "2009-03-28T15:42:44Z")

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In the “No Wonder They Shortened It” category:

Al Pacino is really Alfredo Pacino.

Will Smith is Willard Smith.

Luke Perry is Coy Luther Perry III.

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**Author:** ![mobo85](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b19c9b/32.png) [@mobo85](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mobo85)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2009, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/circumcised-first-names/490831/58 "2009-03-28T16:47:28Z")

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> [@Rubystreak](#):
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> In the “No Wonder They Shortened It” category:
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> Al Pacino is really Alfredo Pacino.
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> Will Smith is Willard Smith.
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> Luke Perry is Coy Luther Perry III.

Tim Allen is really Timothy Allen Dick.

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**Author:** ![AskNott](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asknott/32/5790_2.png) [@AskNott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AskNott)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2009, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/circumcised-first-names/490831/59 "2009-03-28T18:13:13Z")

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Even **Og** Himself was, at first, Phil **o G** ildersmith! That’s what makes him so mean!  
😛

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**Author:** ![Uncle\_Brother\_Walker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f08c70/32.png) [@Uncle\_Brother\_Walker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncle_Brother_Walker)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2009, 8:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/circumcised-first-names/490831/60 "2009-03-29T08:13:13Z")

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> [@mobo85](#):
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> Tim Allen is really Timothy Allen Dick.

But from what I hear, Tim Allen \*really is \* a dick. 😕

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