# Citation glitch being perpetually reiterated by AI

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**Created:** [April 16, 2025, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citation-glitch-being-perpetually-reiterated-by-ai/1017111 "2025-04-16T17:45:17Z")\
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Somewhat ironically, ChatGPT is actually pretty good at explaining how it itself works: [How LLMs work, explained in 3 _Lord of the Rings_ haikus by ChatGPT](https://chatgpt.com/share/68002553-0930-8011-859e-38331987b3cf)

In that chat, I asked it to explain how LLMs work, and clarified with several follow-ups. Then I asked it to use a special mode, read a bunch of scholarly papers, and then analyze them vs its earlier explanations to summarize the major points with citations. It [continually re-prompted itself in a “chain of thought”](https://share.cleanshot.com/GQYfHk8fZp8QJfYQcRtw) to read different sources and add them to its context. Then I asked about it hallucinations.

This conversation helped me understand how we go from “token prediction like your phone’s autocomplete” to “how is it able to actually understand a prompt, break down its question into tokens, and extract sufficient meaning in order to answer it”.

Of course, the sad thing is… I don’t know if that convo was entirely hallucinated. It seemed plausible enough, and the terms seem to check out, but we’re quickly veering towards an all-AI reality bubble where it’s impossible to verify anything anymore… 🤷

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If you prefer human responses, we also recently had a similar thread about this, with a lot of discussion and additional info: [chatGPT is a fucking liar](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chatgpt-is-a-fucking-liar/1016559)

There were [some explainer videos in post #38](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/chatgpt-is-a-fucking-liar/1016559/38). Those visualizations are helpful for seeing a (simplified) representation of the token prediction process, especially at [3:03 in this “Transformers (how LLMs work) explained visually” video](https://youtu.be/wjZofJX0v4M?si=OBl_RdIARxHjuqrT&t=183). That’s part of a whole series and several talks (by what seems to be a person). Who can tell anymore…

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