# Cities on borders part II

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cities-on-borders-part-ii/491444>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [March 31, 2009, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cities-on-borders-part-ii/491444 "2009-03-31T15:33:54Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![MadTheSwine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MadTheSwine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MadTheSwine)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2009, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cities-on-borders-part-ii/491444/1 "2009-03-31T15:33:54Z")

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Interested in names like Texarkana,Texico,Cal-Nev-Ari(though it aint near the border really)

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2009, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cities-on-borders-part-ii/491444/2 "2009-03-31T15:40:54Z")

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To show support for your Part II concept, may I add the notion of identifying places of business (stores, hotels, casinos, houses of ill repute, restaurants, sporting vanues, etc.) that straddle a border? I know there are such places on the Tennessee borders with Kentucky and Alabama (at least) and I’ll try to get some specifics if I can locate them.

Is that within bounds of your thread?

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**Author:** ![MadTheSwine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MadTheSwine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MadTheSwine)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2009, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cities-on-borders-part-ii/491444/3 "2009-03-31T15:43:40Z")

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> [@Zeldar](#):
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> To show support for your Part II concept, may I add the notion of identifying places of business (stores, hotels, casinos, houses of ill repute, restaurants, sporting vanues, etc.) that straddle a border? I know there are such places on the Tennessee borders with Kentucky and Alabama (at least) and I’ll try to get some specifics if I can locate them.
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> Is that within bounds of your thread?

I spose..I am curious of portmanteau words,geographically.

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**Author:** ![h.sapiens](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e0b2c6/32.png) [@h.sapiens](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/h.sapiens)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2009, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cities-on-borders-part-ii/491444/4 "2009-03-31T15:49:32Z")

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[Calexico, California](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calexico,_California) and [Mexicali, Mexico](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexicali).

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2009, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cities-on-borders-part-ii/491444/5 "2009-03-31T16:01:47Z")

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There’s Florala between those two states.

Also the Arklatex region as well as the Delmarva.

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**Author:** ![Desert\_Nomad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desert_nomad/32/177_2.png) [@Desert\_Nomad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Desert_Nomad)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2009, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cities-on-borders-part-ii/491444/6 "2009-03-31T16:26:58Z")

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> [@Zeldar](#):
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> To show support for your Part II concept, may I add the notion of identifying places of business (stores, hotels, casinos, houses of ill repute, restaurants, sporting vanues, etc.) that straddle a border? I know there are such places on the Tennessee borders with Kentucky and Alabama (at least) and I’ll try to get some specifics if I can locate them.
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> Is that within bounds of your thread?

There is the Calneva Lodge on the Nevada/California border. The building crosses the border and there is a white line on the floor. All the (card) tables and slot machines are obviously on the Nevada side.

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**Author:** ![Simmerdown](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simmerdown/32/14859_2.png) [@Simmerdown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simmerdown)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2009, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cities-on-borders-part-ii/491444/7 "2009-03-31T18:23:18Z")

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There is Michiana – northern Indiana and southwestern Michigan.

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**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2009, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cities-on-borders-part-ii/491444/8 "2009-03-31T19:17:43Z")

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> [@Zeldar](#):
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> To show support for your Part II concept, may I add the notion of identifying places of business (stores, hotels, casinos, houses of ill repute, restaurants, sporting vanues, etc.) that straddle a border? I know there are such places on the Tennessee borders with Kentucky and Alabama (at least) and I’ll try to get some specifics if I can locate them.
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> Is that within bounds of your thread?

In lovely Stanstead, Quebec and Derby Line, Vermont, is to be found the [Haskell Free Library and Opera House](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haskell_Free_Library_and_Opera_House), a handsome building intentionally built across the border to foster harmony or some such. The boundary runs directly through the library and 400-seat auditorium; it is marked with a thick black line not only for decoration but also for insurance purposes. The library is an historic site both in Quebec and Vermont, and getting approval and meeting standards for necessary repairs is apparently a giant pain in the butt.

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**Author:** ![movingfinger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@movingfinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/movingfinger)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2009, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cities-on-borders-part-ii/491444/9 "2009-04-01T04:55:04Z")

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There is a Uvada, but without a map at hand I can’t recall whether it is in Utah or Nevada.

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**Author:** ![Randy\_Seltzer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ee7513/32.png) [@Randy\_Seltzer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Randy_Seltzer)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2009, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cities-on-borders-part-ii/491444/10 "2009-04-01T05:40:06Z")

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Kanorado, KS. On the Kansas/Colorado border right off I-70.

Trivia time! What famous person was born in Kanorado?Nobody.

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**Author:** ![h.sapiens](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e0b2c6/32.png) [@h.sapiens](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/h.sapiens)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2009, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cities-on-borders-part-ii/491444/11 "2009-04-01T13:56:51Z")

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[Benelux](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benelux), which is as much political/economical as geographic, refers to Belgium, Netherlands and Luxembourg.

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**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2009, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cities-on-borders-part-ii/491444/12 "2009-04-01T14:23:45Z")

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> [@matt\_mcl](#):
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> The boundary runs directly through the library and 400-seat auditorium; it is marked with a thick black line not only for decoration but also for insurance purposes.

The local theme park, Carowinds, straddles the NC-SC state line and IIRC the line is done in brass inlay. I remember it making a big visual impact on me as a tot. “I’m in North Carolina! I’m in South Carolina!”

As to the OP, I got nothing. The closest offering I have is the now pretty much defunct movement to refer the Charlotte MSA as [“Metrolina.”](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metrolina#Nicknames_and_regional_identity)

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**Author:** ![Jamaika\_a\_jamaikaiake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7993a0/32.png) [@Jamaika\_a\_jamaikaiake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jamaika_a_jamaikaiake)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2009, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cities-on-borders-part-ii/491444/13 "2009-04-01T14:39:01Z")

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> [@Simmerdown](#):
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> There is Michiana – northern Indiana and southwestern Michigan.

So I grew up in Michiana, and once, when I was driving southward, I heard the term “Kentuckiana” on the radio. :eek:

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2009, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cities-on-borders-part-ii/491444/14 "2009-04-01T17:41:21Z")

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Seatac, Washington

It’s more than an airport, it’s a city.

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**Author:** ![Orpington](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/cc9497/32.png) [@Orpington](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Orpington)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2009, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cities-on-borders-part-ii/491444/15 "2009-04-01T18:44:33Z")

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Lake Texoma on the border of Texas & Oklahoma.

And speaking of borders and buildings - I remember on a childhood road trip from Texas to Missouri there was a bridge that was also a restaurant (at least that’s how my 10-year-old mind interpreted it). We actually stopped and ate there, though I have no actual memory of how we got there. It was over a major highway, almost certainly an interstate or US highway. I had myself convinced (through process of elimination on subsequent trips through MO on the way to other places) that we must have taken the TX-OK-Kansas route that trip, but a few years ago I married a man from SE Kansas and I believe we have driven every conceivable route from Dallas to OKC or Tulsa to Wichita and all points east in all three states, and have yet to encounter any overhead restaurants. (though the one thing we haven’t done yet is continue the trip into Missouri from Kansas, but he grew up so close to there that we both believe he would have seen it himself, probably)  
Does this ring any bells with anyone? I’ve asked my parents and they’re no help - they don’t deny it but they don’t remember either. It would have happened in the early 70’s, probably 74.

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**Author:** ![Tamex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ccd318/32.png) [@Tamex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamex)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2009, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cities-on-borders-part-ii/491444/16 "2009-04-01T22:43:59Z")

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There’s [Monida Pass](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monida_Pass) between Montana and Idaho. There is also the town of Monida, MT nearby, but, according to Wikipedia, it is almost a ghost town.

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**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2009, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cities-on-borders-part-ii/491444/17 "2009-04-02T01:41:58Z")

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I should have mentioned that in Stanstead near the aforementioned opera house is to be found a Rue Canusa.

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**Author:** ![wouldn\_t\_you\_like\_to\_know](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/eb8c5e/32.png) [@wouldn\_t\_you\_like\_to\_know](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wouldn_t_you_like_to_know)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2009, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cities-on-borders-part-ii/491444/18 "2009-04-02T04:59:38Z")

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> [@Orpington](#):
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> Lake Texoma on the border of Texas & Oklahoma.
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> And speaking of borders and buildings - I remember on a childhood road trip from Texas to Missouri there was a bridge that was also a restaurant (at least that’s how my 10-year-old mind interpreted it). We actually stopped and ate there, though I have no actual memory of how we got there. It was over a major highway, almost certainly an interstate or US highway. I had myself convinced (through process of elimination on subsequent trips through MO on the way to other places) that we must have taken the TX-OK-Kansas route that trip, but a few years ago I married a man from SE Kansas and I believe we have driven every conceivable route from Dallas to OKC or Tulsa to Wichita and all points east in all three states, and have yet to encounter any overhead restaurants. (though the one thing we haven’t done yet is continue the trip into Missouri from Kansas, but he grew up so close to there that we both believe he would have seen it himself, probably)  
> Does this ring any bells with anyone? I’ve asked my parents and they’re no help - they don’t deny it but they don’t remember either. It would have happened in the early 70’s, probably 74.

I’m guessing you are thinking of this place.

> **[The Glass House, Vinita, Oklahoma](https://www.roadsideamerica.com/story/11683)**
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> Opened in 1958 as The Glass House, spanning the I-44 Will Rogers Turnpike, this airborne wide-load eatery became, for a time, the World's Largest McDonald's. Now it's known as the Will Rogers Archway.

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**Author:** ![Orpington](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/cc9497/32.png) [@Orpington](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Orpington)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2009, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cities-on-borders-part-ii/491444/19 "2009-04-02T12:28:53Z")

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> [@wouldn\_t\_you\_like\_to\_know](#):
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> I’m guessing you are thinking of this place.
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> [The Glass House, Vinita, Oklahoma](http://www.roadsideamerica.com/story/11683)

Hey I think that’s it! Though I don’t recall it being a McDonald’s; however, we almost never ate fast food so to a 10yo McDonald’s might have seemed like a real restaurant. But click on the “more about world’s largest McDonald’s” link and there’s a comment from someone who remembers it originally being a Howard Johnson’s in the late 60’s - that sounds more reasonable to me…

Searching for “howard johnson vinita ok” led me to this link:

> **[Vinita Oklahoma Gallery](http://www.panix.com/~rbean/oasis/ok/index.html)**

That looks extremely familiar, and apparently the only other over-road restaurants are the Oasis restaurants in the Chicago area - I know I’ve never been close to Chicago (southern tip of Illinois but not the north) so it mst be the Vinita one! Yay! 25-year mystery solved!!  
(Apparently DH and I have never continued on I-44 east of Tulsa - that’s where we always cut to the north. I really thought we’d gone further east in OK. Guess we’ll have to make a special trip next time we’re up there!)

Thanks so much!

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**Author:** ![hellpaso](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ecae2f/32.png) [@hellpaso](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hellpaso)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2009, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cities-on-borders-part-ii/491444/20 "2009-04-02T16:41:47Z")

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Floribama and the Floribama Lounge, at Orange Beach/Perdido Key, Alabama.

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