Cities w/o suburbs: Every metro area in America should have consolidated metro government

Do you even understand what “sprawl” means in the context of this discussion?

Yes - it means “Develop that BrainGlutton does not like.” We are not terribly shocked.

Close. The Earth doesn’t like it. (And I don’t much like the Earth, fuck nature, but I need it more than it needs me . . . or us.)

I’d combine these two ideas personally. First divide the nation into various regions which will take over some state government functions (although many will be handed up over to the federal government and down to the district governments) and then divide into metropolitan districts and non-metropolitan districts which will combine many of the functions of municipal and county government.

Do you have anything constructive for this thread or are you just airing generic Teapartei duckspeak?

Well, in many countries the national government reorganizes its system of local governments periodically or as needed. But those are countries where the national government can. Our Constitution does not even authorize Congress to deprive a state of an inch of territory without its consent. Only the states can systematically reorganize their local governments – and, for various political and cultural and traditional reasons, they very rarely do. American political culture has a hyperfederalist streak, always has.

The idea that Nashville is a corrupt, crime-infested shithole is just hilarious to me. How much more whitebread do you fucking want?? Holy shit!

I mean, it’s Nashville!

In this case it’s directly on topic. The solution proposed here is simply bigger government, and taking local control away from folks that the OP doesn’t like. It’s not a Tea Party response, it’s a common sense response.

No it doesn’t. Most of this concerns transferring existing government powers and functions to a different level of government.

So if the earth is talking to people and saying it doesn’t like suburban development, what does it say is acceptable? Does it like the 500 square foot flat above the liquor store that liberals think everyone should be living in? How many earthworms and dandelions died to build that building?

Generally, it likes whatever causes the least petroleum to be burned.

We may kill ourselves or ruin our lives burning petroleum - we may even kill a bunch of shit - but I doubt the Earth cares. Doesn’t change the end game for her.

Nashville is like most large American cities. There’s a large black ghetto that no one would voluntarily live in if they could afford better. There’s a downtown district which is mostly for tourists now, and there are a few white, middle-class neighborhoods. And the city government is, by appearances, quite happy to ignore the fact that the standard of living is so different for blacks and whites.

(looking at my municipal government, then Rahm and the Chicago City Council)

Nope, mine are amateurs by comparison.

Given that earthworms and dandelions, like starlings and kudzu, are invasive species not found in the Western Hemisphere before 1492, if Mother Earth cared she still wouldn’t weep for them.

Interesting. How long have you been talking to the Earth, and at what point were you appointed her High Priest?

Let’s see - the proposal is to have large cities annex surrounding g suburbs to improve their tax base to fund larger government where the exiting ones are performing poorly. So when that eventually fails would the solution be to continue annexing more and more? To what upper limit is there on this growth of a monolithic collective? If a little annexing is good, is a lot better? If not what limits are there?

People live in the suburbs largely because the prefer it. Derp. Of course the OP contends that they are doing it wrong and should not be able to choose their place of residency autonomously. Yeah I think the response to decry larger and more powerful central government is appropriate.

This is not about making them move, it is about what entity of local government they will vote for and pay takes to.

So… conquering them? By force, if necessary?

It’s removing a good part of why they chose to live there. They choose to live in a community that isn’t part of a larger and more urban government. They can find what they want further away, it’s not tied to a particular chunk of land. Your proposal is self-defeating as all you’re going to do is drive the people away who’s money you are trying to take.