# Cities With State Names: Any Others? **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [September 8, 2015, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cities-with-state-names-any-others/730335 "2015-09-08T14:35:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2015, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cities-with-state-names-any-others/730335/61 "2015-09-09T13:39:50Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > As a bit of trivia, although it’s not a US example, the only city I know in which the city name, next highest political unit, and country name are identical is the city of Panama, in the province of Panama, in the Republic of Panama. (The name of the city is actually just “Panama,” rather than Ciudad Panama or other variant.) New York city contains New York county (Manhattan) in New York State. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2015, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cities-with-state-names-any-others/730335/62 "2015-09-09T13:41:44Z")
> [@](#): > > Quoth **Colibri** : > > How are those examples of a city and state sharing the same name? None of the Washingtons are in Washington state. Washington is a city, and Washington is a state. They have the same name. How is that not an example of a city and a state sharing the same name? ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2015, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cities-with-state-names-any-others/730335/63 "2015-09-09T13:49:45Z")
> [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](#): > > Nevada City, CA, which is the county seat of Nevada County. So that’s Nevada City, in Nevada County, in California state. What _ **were** _ they thinking? ---
**Author:** ![GreasyJack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/df705f/32.png) [@GreasyJack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreasyJack)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2015, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cities-with-state-names-any-others/730335/64 "2015-09-09T13:51:46Z")
> [@Bullitt](#): > > [Here’s a picture (not mine).](http://s1087.photobucket.com/user/lcmpm7/media/nebraska.jpg.html) BTW, what is that mountaintop / hilltop / spire shown on the sign? [Chimney Rock](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chimney_Rock_National_Historic_Site). Also, looking at the wikipedia article, I strongly support switching it back to the original Lakota name. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2015, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cities-with-state-names-any-others/730335/65 "2015-09-09T13:52:10Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Washington is a city, and Washington is a state. They have the same name. How is that not an example of a city and a state sharing the same name? This specific question is about a city having the name of the state that it is in, such as New York, New York or Nebraska City, Nebraska. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2015, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cities-with-state-names-any-others/730335/66 "2015-09-09T13:54:53Z")
> [@Bullitt](#): > > So that’s Nevada City, in Nevada County, in California state. What _ **were** _ they thinking? That the Sierra Nevada is mostly in California. ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2015, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cities-with-state-names-any-others/730335/67 "2015-09-09T13:57:17Z")
> [@GreasyJack](#): > > [Chimney Rock](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chimney_Rock_National_Historic_Site). > > Also, looking at the wikipedia article, I strongly support switching it back to the original Lakota name. If we use the actual Lakota name (“heȟáka čhé”), we might be able to avoid the mild embarrassment of what it translates to in English. Then again, the English translation could be euphemised, like “Elkwood”. :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2015, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cities-with-state-names-any-others/730335/68 "2015-09-09T14:14:56Z")
> [@](#): > > Quoth **Telemark** : > > This specific question is about a city having the name of the state that it is in, such as New York, New York or Nebraska City, Nebraska. Which specific question? I didn’t see anyone asking that. ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2015, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cities-with-state-names-any-others/730335/69 "2015-09-09T14:33:08Z")
> [@gnoitall](#): > > If we use the actual Lakota name (“heȟáka čhé”), we might be able to avoid the mild embarrassment of what it translates to in English. > > Then again, the English translation could be euphemised, like “Elkwood”. :eek: What happens in Nebraska, stays in Nebraska. Apparently. ---
**Author:** ![Leo\_Bloom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leo_bloom/32/10377_2.png) [@Leo\_Bloom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leo_Bloom)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2015, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cities-with-state-names-any-others/730335/70 "2015-09-09T14:51:48Z")
> [@Folacin](#): > > Nevada, MO (although they pronounce the first ‘a’ with the long sound (as in ‘stay’). This is almost difficult for me to get my mouth around. It just won’t come out. But it reminds me of Buena Vista: pronounced Byouna Vista. Can’t remember now what state that is. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2015, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cities-with-state-names-any-others/730335/71 "2015-09-09T15:03:29Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Which specific question? I didn’t see anyone asking that. Yes, but **buddha\_dave’s** question wouldn’t make any sense if your interpretation was what he meant. He was responding to the list that as you note had many examples of the strictly literal interpretation. I suppose you could go for the AI interpretation of the question, but sometimes you have to put more effort in trying to pass the Turing test (unless you were nitpicking just for the sake of nitpicking, in which case, fair enough.) 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2015, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cities-with-state-names-any-others/730335/72 "2015-09-09T15:12:54Z")
> [@buddha\_david](#): > > So… is New York, NY the only example of a city and state sharing the exact same name? This is the question, and the only way it makes sense if you are talking about a city and state containing it sharing the same name. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2015, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cities-with-state-names-any-others/730335/73 "2015-09-09T15:16:23Z")
Eh, it could also make sense if it came from a person who hadn’t read most of the thread, which is also pretty common. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2015, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cities-with-state-names-any-others/730335/74 "2015-09-09T15:27:49Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Eh, it could also make sense if it came from a person who hadn’t read most of the thread, which is also pretty common. That’s possible, but by singling out NY, NY as the only example that meets the criteria it would seem unlikely. No harm, no foul. - Major Major ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2015, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cities-with-state-names-any-others/730335/75 "2015-09-09T15:45:22Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Eh, it could also make sense if it came from a person who hadn’t read most of the thread, which is also pretty common. Or hadn’t even read four consecutive posts.😉 ---
**Author:** ![ftg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ftg/32/2801_2.png) [@ftg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ftg)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2015, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cities-with-state-names-any-others/730335/76 "2015-09-09T16:16:12Z")
Concerning Hawaii: There is an older form of the name “Owyhee” which is the name of a [river](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Owyhee_River) in SE Oregon and a bit in Nevada and Idaho. From that, counties in Oregon and Idaho take their name. And … a [town](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Owyhee,_Nevada) in Nevada! Perhaps there are more places that use older/alternate forms of state names. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2015, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cities-with-state-names-any-others/730335/77 "2015-09-09T16:31:36Z")
> [@ftg](#): > > Perhaps there are more places that use older/alternate forms of state names. It’s a well-known fact\* that the name of Newark originated from the way people in New Jersey mispronounce New York. \*Which I just made up. ---
**Author:** ![tonyfop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/85f322/32.png) [@tonyfop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tonyfop)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2015, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cities-with-state-names-any-others/730335/78 "2015-09-09T16:53:54Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > As a bit of trivia, although it’s not a US example, the only city I know in which the city name, next highest political unit, and country name are identical is the city of Panama, in the province of Panama, in the Republic of Panama. (The name of the city is actually just “Panama,” rather than Ciudad Panama or other variant.) People don’t realize that the 5 boroughs of NYC are co-extant with 5 counties, which mostly have different names than the boroughs. The Borough and island of Manhattan is co-extant with New York County, so if you are in Manhattan, You are in New York City, County, and State. This doesn’t count for the other 4 Boroughs. Yes, NYC covers 5 Counties: NY County, Bronx County, Queens County, Kings County(Brooklyn) and Richmond County (Staten Island). ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2015, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cities-with-state-names-any-others/730335/79 "2015-09-09T17:29:18Z")
> [@tonyfop](#): > > The Borough and island of Manhattan is co-extant with New York County, As a small nit-pick, though an interesting one, New York County and the Borough of Manhattan are not precisely co-extant with Manhattan Island, since these include the [Marble Hill](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marble_Hill,_Manhattan) area on the mainland, due to filling in part of the Harlem River. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2015, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cities-with-state-names-any-others/730335/80 "2015-09-09T17:42:00Z")
Idaho City is not in Idaho County, it is in Boise County, but Boise is in Ada County (something exclusive about a palindrome there). Meanwhile, Idaho Springs is in Colorado. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cities-with-state-names-any-others/730335.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cities-with-state-names-any-others/730335.md?page=5)