# Citizen Trump (et al.)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 13, 2021, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458 "2021-01-13T17:51:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2021, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/321 "2021-06-22T21:59:59Z")

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> **[The Evidence of Trump’s Pandemic Sabotage Keeps Piling Up](https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/06/trump-covid-pandemic-sabotage-evidence.html)**
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> A new book shows how he concealed the crisis to protect his image.

“…It’s hard to talk about Donald Trump’s record on COVID-19 without sounding hyperbolic. That’s because the documented facts are so awful: Trump constantly deceived the public and interfered in every element of the government’s response, leading to hundreds of thousands of deaths that were, according to his own advisers, unnecessary…”

“… In late March 2020, Robert Kadlec, a senior HHS official, went to Trump’s senior adviser and son-in-law, Jared Kushner, with a plan to mass-distribute masks. When Kushner learned that the masks wouldn’t arrive until June, he exploded. “We’ll all be dead by June,” he told Kadlec…”

“… **By orders of magnitude, it’s the most lethal betrayal of American citizens by their own president** …”

That last bolding mine.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2021, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/322 "2021-06-30T20:07:07Z")

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I am pissed off that the mainstream news is running articles about how Ivanka gave money for the recovery of the demolished condo in Miami. How many thousands of other people have done at least that much, if not more?

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2021, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/323 "2021-06-30T20:10:15Z")

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Well, you would not expect her to talk to anyone who knows someone who got dust or ick on their hands.

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2021, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/324 "2021-06-30T20:21:36Z")

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R.I.P. Donald! (or maybe not)

Abbreviated headline seen today on Yahoo News front page:

[We share the news of the passing of Donald…](https://news.yahoo.com/donald-rumsfeld-dies-88-former-192524266.html)

Oh, wait. That’s Donald Rumsfeld, dead at 88.

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**Author:** ![SwissMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e79b87/32.png) [@SwissMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SwissMan)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2021, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/325 "2021-06-30T22:51:43Z")

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Come now, you act like that’s not a good thing. I guess with the Cosby news earlier, the universe decided it needed to try and balance things out a little.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2021, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/326 "2021-07-01T01:54:41Z")

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😃

> **[AP sources: Trump company, executive indicted in tax probe](https://apnews.com/article/trump-organization-investigation-charges-8b2deb72f74ef13e0d45a69ee7118261)**
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> Donald Trump’s company and his longtime finance chief have been indicted on charges stemming from a New York investigation into the former president’s business dealings, two people familiar with the matter told The Associated Press.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2021, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/327 "2021-07-01T12:13:22Z")

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Will it be Citizen Griffin soon too?

> **[Supreme Court allows recall effort against Trump booster](https://apnews.com/article/nm-state-wire-courts-f5a1c3dc438531142ce0bad007582cb9)**
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> SANTA FE, N.M. (AP) — An effort to recall the founder of Cowboys for Trump from his public office as a county commissioner can move forward, under an order Monday of the New Mexico state Supreme Court.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2021, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/328 "2021-07-01T12:14:37Z")

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Weisselberg already turned himself in:

> **[Trump Organization, CFO indicted on tax fraud charges](https://apnews.com/article/trump-organization-allen-weisselberg-charges-ad7350d4f85f295eeb753658e786cd88)**
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> NEW YORK (AP) — Donald Trump’s company and its longtime finance chief were charged Thursday in what prosecutors called a “sweeping and audacious” tax fraud scheme in which the executive collected more than $1.7 million in off-the-books compensation,...

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2021, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/329 "2021-07-01T18:31:21Z")

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Interesting opinion piece from a lawyer on why a gag order on Trump is in order.

> **[Why a gag order against Trump would be a good idea | CNN](https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/01/opinions/gag-order-against-trump-would-be-a-good-idea-gottlieb/index.html)**
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> Robert C. Gottlieb, a New York attorney and former prosecutor in the Manhattan DA's office, writes that it's a safe bet that once the indictments in the Trump investigation are filed and made public, the former president will go on his usual...

I hope they get one, because that would be what puts the fucker in jail. He’s totally incapable of NOT attacking everybody he can think of.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2021, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/330 "2021-07-02T02:26:38Z")

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Donnie Junior compares Britney’s conservatorship to Democratic governors.

> **[Donald Trump Jr. Did It Again With A Ridiculous Take On 'Brittany' Spears'...](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-jr-britney-spears_n_60dc0d8ee4b049923156f154)**
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> "The stretching here is amazing," one Twitter user fired back at Donald Trump's son's attempt to politicize the pop star's situation.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2021, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/331 "2021-07-02T03:28:47Z")

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My favorite:

> [@PSaunders](#):
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> Let’s compare apples and whales, shall we?

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2021, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/332 "2021-07-02T04:25:20Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Donnie Junior compares Britney’s conservatorship to Democratic governors.

Well, he’s not wrong.

> How many Americans rightly concerned about Brittany Spears’ conservatorship had no problems with America’s conservatorship under blue state governors for the past year???

I for one, do not. It’s the _red_ state governors I would suspect of skimming into their pockets more than they allow people in the state to have, want control the citizens’ bodies and otherwise play fast and loose with the legal system.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [July 5, 2021, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/333 "2021-07-05T18:47:00Z")

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Individual 1’s mew spokesperson tweeted a link to an article which she used to brag about his rally being the largest at the location. But the article she linked also said that Individual 1’s election fraud claims are false.

> **[Trump’s New Spokesperson Tweets Article That Says His Election Claims Are A Lie](https://news.yahoo.com/trump-spokesperson-tweets-article-says-084921552.html)**
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> "Thank you for not actually reading the article you linked to," one Twitter user told Liz Harrington.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2021, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/334 "2021-07-06T04:35:15Z")

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I’d bet the rally at Four Seasons Landscaping was the biggest they’d had there as well.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2021, 8:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/335 "2021-07-06T08:13:54Z")

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Donny Jr is really trying. [Have you seen his July 4th tweet?](https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/1411682647433170947)

Note to Donny: he will never love you. You will always be, at best, a distant third to Ivanka and Barron. But you can at least take some comfort from knowing that you’re not Eric.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2021, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/336 "2021-07-06T19:28:35Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> Donny Jr is really trying

The whole family is very trying. (Well, I don’t know about Barron.)

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2021, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/337 "2021-07-06T19:37:45Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> You will always be, at best, a distant third to Ivanka and Barron. -

I doubt Trump even remembers that Barron exists.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2021, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/338 "2021-07-06T19:39:41Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> The whole family is very trying.

I **do** want them tried.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2021, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/339 "2021-07-06T19:44:11Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> I doubt Trump even remembers that Barron exists.

Barron’s not quite old enough to be considered a disappointment and he’s still relatively new and shiny, so he’s currently second. Tiffany’s the one he forgets exists, and it’s probably for the best from her perspective.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2021, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/340 "2021-07-07T14:44:42Z")

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My face hurts from smiling in reaction to this:

> **[Trump files suit against Facebook, Twitter and YouTube](https://apnews.com/article/lawsuits-business-government-and-politics-c7e26858dcb553f92d98706d12ad510c)**
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> Former President Donald Trump has filed suit against three of the country’s biggest tech companies, claiming he and other conservatives have been wrongfully censored.

> [@](#):
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> Former President Donald Trump is expected to announce a class-action lawsuit Wednesday against three of the country’s biggest tech companies: Facebook, Twitter and Google.
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> Trump will serve as the lead plaintiff in the suit, claiming he has been wrongfully censored by the companies, according to a person familiar with the action. The person spoke on condition of anonymity to share details ahead of the announcement.

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> Trump is set to make the announcement at an event at his Bedminster, New Jersey golf course Wednesday morning.

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