# Citizen Trump (et al.)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 13, 2021, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458 "2021-01-13T17:51:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2021, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/341 "2021-07-07T14:55:06Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> Trump will serve as the lead plaintiff in the suit, claiming he has been wrongfully censored by the companies, according to a person familiar with the action

I can’t even imagine a legal theory that would prohibit a private business from dropping a deplorable individual as a customer. It’s a free country, and all that. “Political ideology” is protected in _employment_ in a few places (like Seattle) but it’s not generally protected in public accommodations. I hate to go out on a limb before I read the Complaint, but I will anyway. This suit, if brought, will be dismissed.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2021, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/342 "2021-07-07T14:59:19Z")

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I don’t know how Google “censored” him, but I’m pretty sure it’s in the T&Cs for Facebook and Twitter that they can remove anyone from their platform whom they have deemed to have violated their terms of use. It’s not their fault he didn’t read the fine print.

That said, this is probably just another grift to get into the news and wheedle more donations from the rubes. Hope his lawyers are smart enough to get paid in advance.

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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2021, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/343 "2021-07-07T15:09:41Z")

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> **[Trump 'stunned' chief of staff John Kelly by praising Hitler: new book](https://www.rawstory.com/donald-trump-hitler/)**
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> Former president Donald Trump "stunned" his then-chief of staff John Kelly by praising Adolf Hitler, according to a new book.The Guardian obtained a copy of the forthcoming book, "Frankly, We Did Win This Election," by Wall Street Journal reporter...

I think the headline says it all. The only thing that surprises me is that John Kelly was was surprised. Apparently Kelly had to pound “never say anything good about Hitler” into Trump pretty hard.

But this reminded me of something more recent, something that got lost on the sidelines in the post-election noise.

Remember when the GA Secretary of State taped Trump pressuring him to fix the election. Brad Raffensperger had an attorney on that phone call with him, a man named Ryan _ **Germany** _.

During the call, Trump said “Why don’t you want to find this, Ryan? What’s wrong with you? I’m sure you’re a good lawyer. _ **You have a nice last name** _.

I thought that was the best part of the phone call, but the press barely mentioned it.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2021, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/344 "2021-07-07T15:11:01Z")

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For a moment I though the headline was about “Hitler’s new book”, which was like - whoa.

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2021, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/345 "2021-07-07T15:56:10Z")

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Hitler is an example of somebody who’s done an amazing job and is getting recognized more and more, I notice.

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**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2021, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/346 "2021-07-07T16:16:39Z")

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> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#):
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> The only thing that surprises me is that John Kelly was was surprised. Apparently Kelly had to pound “never say anything good about Hitler” into Trump pretty hard.

Also from the article:

> Trump made the remark after Kelly “reminded the president which countries were on which side during the conflict”

I wonder if all those veterans and greatest generation types who supported Trump had any idea how fucking stupid he was.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2021, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/347 "2021-07-07T16:33:22Z")

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So Trump wants to force social media sites to allow anyone to post whatever they want–and also be liable for anything those people say.

> The suits want the court to order the media companies to let Trump back on their platforms. They also want the court to declare that Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, a piece of legislation that stops tech companies from being held liable for what users post on their platforms, is unconstitutional.

> **[Trump sues Twitter, Facebook, Google – and immediately begins fundraising off...](https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2021/07/07/trump-says-he-is-suing-facebook-google-twitter-dorsey-zuckerberg-pichai.html)**
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> Trump, who has a history of not following through on legal threats, announced the legal action against Facebook, Twitter and Google from his club in New Jersey.

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2021, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/348 "2021-07-07T16:41:59Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> Hope his lawyers are smart enough to get paid in advance.

Actually, I hope they aren’t, and don’t. Keep T\*\*\*\* digging deeper towards the bottom of the barrel as he tries to find new ones.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2021, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/349 "2021-07-08T02:23:41Z")

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> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#):
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> The only thing that surprises me is that John Kelly was was surprised. Apparently Kelly had to pound “never say anything good about Hitler” into Trump pretty hard.

Individual 1 was known back in the 90s to have a copy of Hitler’s speeches on his bedside table.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2021, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/350 "2021-07-08T02:25:20Z")

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Individual 1 golfing buddy charged with indecent assault.

> **[Trump friend and golfing partner charged with misdemeanor indecent assault](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-dentist-charged/2021/07/06/e4d7a26c-de72-11eb-ae31-6b7c5c34f0d6_story.html)**
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> Police allege Albert Hazzouri Jr., a dentist, groped a patient after a procedure.

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2021, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/351 "2021-07-08T03:06:23Z")

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He heard from DumpsterFire that all the girls like that. Better than some lame pickup line.

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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2021, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/352 "2021-07-08T03:22:34Z")

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I was wondering how Individual 1 knew so much about Hitler’s economic philosophy. At least that proves he can read,I guess.

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**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2021, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/353 "2021-07-08T16:01:48Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> Hope his lawyers are smart enough to get paid in advance.

Juliani wasn’t.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2021, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/354 "2021-07-08T19:52:53Z")

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> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#):
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> I was wondering how Individual 1 knew so much about Hitler’s economic philosophy. At least that proves he can read,I guess.

Nah, it just proves that he occasionally watches the Hitler Channel (probably when he gets annoyed that Faux and ONAN are being insufficiently sycophantic).

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2021, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/355 "2021-07-10T01:00:06Z")

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> **[Trump said he was happy to be banned from Twitter because it gave him time to...](https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-said-happy-banned-twitter-134452712.html)**
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> Trump told WSJ's Michael Bender that the ban allowed him "to make phone calls, and do other things and read papers that I wouldn't read."

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**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2021, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/356 "2021-07-10T01:01:03Z")

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And the grapes were sour, too.

Nice try, Donnie.

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2021, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/357 "2021-07-10T02:20:23Z")

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The Twitter, Facebook, who knows what else lawsuit grifting is in operation.

> **[Donald Trump Jr. was mocked for trying to crowdfund legal fees for his dad to...](https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-jr-crowdfunds-legal-fees-facebook-twitter-google-lawsuits-2021-7)**
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> Donald Trump Jr. asked his followers on Telegram to donate to his father's PAC. Some people mocked the request considering his family's wealth.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2021, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/358 "2021-07-10T02:34:11Z")

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Isn’t Trump a quadrillionaire? Why does he need money from poor folk?

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2021, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/359 "2021-07-10T02:39:00Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> Isn’t Trump a quadrillionaire? Why does he need money from poor folk? -

How do you think he became a quadrillionaire?

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2021, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/360 "2021-07-10T04:25:40Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> Isn’t Trump a quadrillionaire? Why does he need money from poor folk?

Anyone who can look on the rest of humanity and feel in his shriveled, grease-clogged heart that their money needs to be in his pocket, will be wealthy beyond all imagination in his own mind.

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