# Citizen Trump (et al.)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 13, 2021, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458 "2021-01-13T17:51:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2021, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/402 "2021-07-26T16:23:44Z")

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Didn’t that Senate candidate who wasn’t a witch go to jail for living off her PAC?

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2021, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/403 "2021-07-26T16:30:28Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> Do laws governing PACs contain provisions for financial oversight, such as audits? Is there even a government entity with standing to initiate one?

Ten years ago, [Stephen Colbert demonstrated](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colbert_Super_PAC) that there were no limits on how PAC money could be spent (although in his case, it all went to legitimate charities). As far as I know, there is _nothing_ illegal about how Trump has spent or not spent the money collected.

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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2021, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/404 "2021-07-26T16:31:13Z")

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Christine O’Donnell? Nope. She was never even prosecuted. Grift away ye trumpies. The rubes in the cult can’t write those checks fast enough.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2021, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/405 "2021-07-26T22:48:58Z")

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So this happened:

> **[Donald Trump bizarrely mused about how LeBron James could get sex...](https://www.businessinsider.com/watch-trump-lebron-james-becoming-a-trans-woman-at-rally-2021-7?r=US&IR=T)**
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> During a rally in Phoenix, Arizona, former President Donald Trump suggested that LeBron James could "get the operation" to become a woman.

TLDR: Trump, in his usual incoherent manner, made a “funny joke” about how if he ran a women’s sports team he’d just hire transwomen to play. Because…well, you know why he said that. And then he made a “funny joke” about Lebron transitioning.

What an absolute shit that man is.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2021, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/406 "2021-07-30T17:01:11Z")

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We were so close to not being a democracy; this was _just a few months ago_!

> **[Trump urged Justice officials to declare election 'corrupt'](https://apnews.com/article/trump-urged-justice-department-to-declare-election-corrupt-0edf178869f33ddcf72d4c739bd18a5d)**
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> President Donald Trump urged senior Justice Department officials to declare the 2020 election results “corrupt” in a December phone call.

> “Just say the election was corrupt and leave the rest to me and the R. Congressmen,” Trump said at one point to then-Acting Attorney General Jeffrey Rosen, according to notes taken by Richard Donoghue, a senior Justice Department official who was on the call.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2021, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/407 "2021-07-30T17:58:39Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> We were so close to not being a democracy

No, sorry, this is completely incorrect. People observe a despot sitting on his/her throne telling the people what to do, giving orders and issuing edicts and think that that is all it takes to be a dictator. There is considerably more involved in a dictatorship, a lot of behind the scenes machinery, and most importantly, the palace staff have to be behind the despot. They have to be motivated to work for the dictatorship, to feel that it is a well-oiled machine and they are more than just a cog in it.

The CFSG was one of those people who did not understand the depth of tyranny. He thought it was as simple as just put in some toadies and it would all work out. But his toadies were humans who had feelings and still a few shreds of ethics left. They looked at him and thought, do I want to be seen as that guy’s toady? No one with genuine authority felt that there was a “yes” there.

So, ultimately, the RW dictatorship has not as yet come about here because, in playing to the morons, they let themselves slide too far into the ignorance and stupid. We were never a golden snatch whisker away from losing our democracy, such as it is. Not really even close.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2021, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/408 "2021-07-30T18:16:57Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> So, ultimately, the RW dictatorship has not as yet come about here because, in playing to the morons, they let themselves slide too far into the ignorance and stupid. We were never a golden snatch whisker away from losing our democracy, such as it is. Not really even close.

I think democracy was harmed, at least temporarily, as long as a significant number of people insist on ignoring a legitimate election result. But no I don’t think we were anywhere near losing it.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2021, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/409 "2021-07-30T18:54:38Z")

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It is incorrect that my comment was only considering that latest tidbit; the margin is already too thin.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2021, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/410 "2021-07-30T18:54:59Z")

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O frabjous day!

> **[Justice says IRS must give Trump tax returns to Congress](https://apnews.com/article/business-health-coronavirus-pandemic-michael-brown-personal-taxes-084bbd2d289d3a8874246e10abecae35)**
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> WASHINGTON (AP) — The Justice Department, in a reversal, says the Treasury Department must provide the House Ways and Means Committee former President Donald Trump’s tax returns, apparently ending a long legal showdown over the records.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2021, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/411 "2021-07-30T19:08:13Z")

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Stay classy, Donald…

> **[Trump belittles Capitol police with misogynistic slur](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-capitol-police-pussies-riot-b1893889.html)**
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> His comments are revealed after officers testify about harrowing 6 January riot

> Former President Donald Trump has called the police officers who defended the Capitol on January 6 “p\*\*\*\*\*\*.”
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> Mr Trump is said to have made the disparaging remarks about the officers during private conversations this summer, according to a report by the Daily Beast.
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> According to the report, Mr Trump told people close to him that the events of 6 January “broke” several officers because they weren’t tough enough…

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2021, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/412 "2021-07-30T19:14:00Z")

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> [@Steve\_MB](#):
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> According to the report, Mr Trump told people close to him that the events of 6 January “broke” several officers because they weren’t tough enough…

As if Mr Trump has ever been a physical confrontation in his miserable fucking life.

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2021, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/413 "2021-07-30T19:15:28Z")

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I understand he was involved with plenty when he was in school, usually against boys who were much smaller than him.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2021, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/414 "2021-07-30T19:19:26Z")

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If Cadet Bone Spurs had been defending the Capitol, the terrorists wouldn’t have had to bother defecating on the floors.

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**Author:** ![bobsmom101](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobsmom101/32/2867_2.png) [@bobsmom101](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobsmom101)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2021, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/415 "2021-07-30T20:30:06Z")

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This from the guy who incited the terrorists and then scrammed to his hotel room. The word "contemptible " doesn’t begin to describe him.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2021, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/416 "2021-07-30T20:33:15Z")

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It would be nice if one of his secret service agents pistol whipped him until he peed in his pants.

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2021, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/417 "2021-07-30T20:38:45Z")

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That’s one reason he wears adult diapers.  
One reason.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2021, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/418 "2021-07-31T02:13:57Z")

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[https://mobile.twitter.com/\_EthanGrey/status/1421248177244622848](https://mobile.twitter.com/_EthanGrey/status/1421248177244622848)

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2021, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/419 "2021-07-31T02:24:57Z")

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Elections have consequences.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2021, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/420 "2021-07-31T03:04:47Z")

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> [@Typo\_Negative](#):
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> As if Mr Trump has ever been a physical confrontation in his miserable fucking life.

[![](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/270/867/347.gif) ](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/270/867/347.gif)

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2021, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/421 "2021-07-31T03:56:24Z")

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No surprise. A fake one.

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