# Citizen Trump (et al.) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 13, 2021, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458 "2021-01-13T17:51:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 26
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2022, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/502 "2022-02-01T02:55:01Z")
So he’s running again then. Cheap way to announce that! 😁 ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2022, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/503 "2022-02-01T03:27:39Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > Also at the time the right wing spin machine hadn’t quite figured out what to do about the insurrection. Now they have settled down on the narrative that it was no big deal and the insurrectionists were just much maligned patriots arrested for peacefully speaking truth to power. But in the weeks immediately following Jan 6th Memories were fresh and everyone was in shock, Republicans were trying to distance themselves from the events and blaming it on Antifa. If Trump had stepped in and started issuing pardons it would have looked very bad. True. It might have looked bad enough for 17 GOP senators to vote to convict. An eventuality that would have left Mike Pence _really_ cheesed off, coming as it did, too late to put him in the Oval Office for even a token period. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2022, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/504 "2022-02-01T03:57:36Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > … If Trump had stepped in and started issuing pardons it would have looked very bad. What should he have issued pardons for? You get pardoned for committing a crime. The terrorists did nothing wrong – they were struggling to advance the noble cause. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2022, 8:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/505 "2022-02-01T08:51:04Z")
> [@Locrian](#): > > So he’s running again then. Cheap way to announce that! 😁 Hey! Come on! People are saying he does the _best-ever_ presidential announcements, like from down-escalators and stuff. ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2022, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/506 "2022-02-01T12:04:45Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > What should he have issued pardons for? You get pardoned for committing a crime. You also get pardoned when the Deep State falsely convicts you for your noble activities (c.f. Oliver North). ---
**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2022, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/507 "2022-02-01T13:32:12Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > I saw the clip of the rally where Individual 1 said that he would give pardons to the insurrectionists, and, surprisingly, considering that the rally was full of pro-Individual 1 people, the response to his pardon offer was rather muted. He’s going to pardon antifa? I’ve been told that’s who really stormed the Capitol. ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2022, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/508 "2022-02-01T18:03:30Z")
> [@naita](#): > > He’s going to pardon antifa? I’ve been told that’s who really stormed the Capitol. It was Schrodinger’s protesters. Before you see the clip in question, and know whether it shows people just walking down a corridor, or attacking police officers and smearing excrement on the walls, they’re neither “patriot” nor “antifa”. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2022, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/509 "2022-02-01T18:16:45Z")
[Trump: Pence Should Be Investigated for Not Reversing My Election Loss (yahoo.com)](https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-pence-investigated-not-reversing-141905154.html) > In a furious statement posted by Trump spokeswoman Liz Harrington on Tuesday, the former president once against attacked the House committee investigating the Capitol riot, and said the panel should be focusing on Pence and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, rather than himself. > > The ex-president wrote: “The Unselect Committee should be investigating why Nancy Pelosi did such a poor job of overseeing security and why Mike Pence did not send back the votes for recertification or approval, in that it has now been shown that he clearly had the right to do so!” ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2022, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/510 "2022-02-01T20:13:24Z")
He truly is fucking deluded. I can see attacking Pelosi; that’s standard Republican fare. But claiming that Pence should be investigated? That’s fully insane, and any R who supports him at this point deserves what they get when Trump throws them under the bus too. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2022, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/511 "2022-02-01T20:32:52Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > But claiming that Pence should be investigated? That’s fully insane, and any R who supports him at this point deserves what they get when Trump throws them under the bus too. Not just investigating her, but investigating her for failing to implement the security enhancements _he recommended_. I could be wrong, but I am highly skeptical that Trump recommended increased security at the Capitol on January 6th. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2022, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/512 "2022-02-01T21:55:36Z")
“Unselect” committee. What a fucking moron. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2022, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/513 "2022-02-01T21:59:52Z")
Three syllables, though. That’s positively professorial by the low bar he’s set. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2022, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/514 "2022-02-02T03:20:45Z")
Except, it is not a word by any reasonable standard, just a bunch of syllables crammed into each other. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2022, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/515 "2022-02-02T04:24:29Z")
Like covfefe! ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2022, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/516 "2022-02-14T02:02:57Z")
Individual 1 says Clinton staffers should be executed for spying on him. > **[Trump claims allegations that Clinton operatives tried to infiltrate Trump...](https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-clinton-operatives-alleged-infiltration-once-punishable-by-death-2022-2)** > > Donald Trump reacted to a court filing by prosecutor John Durham alleging Clinton operatives tried to "infiltrate" Trump Tower, White House servers. Gym Jordan agrees with him. > **[Jim Jordan: Trump ‘Right on Target’ to Suggest Executions for Clinton...](https://www.thedailybeast.com/jim-jordan-says-trump-is-right-on-target-to-suggest-executions-for-clinton-campaign-aides)** > > “So President Trump’s statement yesterday, I think is right on target,” Jordan exclaimed on ‘Fox & Friends’ on Sunday morning. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2022, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/517 "2022-02-14T04:33:16Z")
> [@Mijin](#): > > It was Schrodinger’s protesters. Before you see the clip in question, and know whether it shows people just walking down a corridor, or attacking police officers and smearing excrement on the walls, they’re neither “patriot” nor “antifa”. I love this place! Check out [my post from way back in March last year](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/post-cf-and-on-going-trump-outrages/933746/52). (I’m sure I posted that term before then, but cannot find it now.) > I posted before my take on the GOP’s assertions regarding the last election. They’re convinced that the election was invalid because the GOP candidate did not win the election for president; however, the GOP office holders who just got elected on those same ballots and are asserting the presidential ballots are invalid are not asserting their part of the ballot was invalid. > > It’s Schrodinger’s election! ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2022, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/518 "2022-02-15T02:39:09Z")
The financial advisors to the Trump Organization have washed their hands of the whole thing and are saying you can’t trust the Organization’s financial filings. > **[Trump’s longtime accountant says his financial statements cannot be relied upon](https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2022/02/14/trump-accountant-financial-statements/)** > > Former president’s accounting firm, Mazars, also cuts ties with the Trump Organization amid investigation by N.Y. attorney general. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2022, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/519 "2022-02-15T02:50:50Z")
In other news, ecological field researchers have identified sylvan spoor as ursine in origin. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2022, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/520 "2022-02-17T04:31:38Z")
Shocking. Individual 1’s Secretary of Interior is a crook. > **[U.S. investigation finds that former Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke misused...](https://www.npr.org/2022/02/16/1081180054/ryan-zinke-interior-investigation-ig-report)** > > The former Trump Cabinet member failed to disclose details of his involvement in a Montana development project when questioned by ethics officials, an Inspector General's investigation has found. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2022, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/521 "2022-02-17T14:52:06Z")
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