# Citizen Trump (et al.)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 13, 2021, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458 "2021-01-13T17:51:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2022, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/542 "2022-02-22T21:13:18Z")

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or maybe just бред сивой

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2022, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/543 "2022-02-22T21:19:10Z")

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Hey, gang, I’m getting really tired of having to translate posts (and I can’t even sound it out if it’s in Cyrillic)…

If you must use other languages, can you add a translation? (You can spoiler it if you want)

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2022, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/544 "2022-02-22T21:29:51Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> бред сивой

Be fair! I put the phonetic translation! (And everyone knows ‘pravda’ means ‘truth’, and ‘sotsial’naya’ is easily figured out based on the ‘Truth Social’ that preceded it.) 😛

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**Author:** ![Toxgoddess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Toxgoddess](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Toxgoddess)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2022, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/545 "2022-02-22T22:55:10Z")

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I just mentally translated it as “bullshit”. Figured that works just as well.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2022, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/546 "2022-02-22T23:49:11Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> or maybe just бред сивой

> [@digs](#):
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> Hey, gang, I’m getting really tired of having to translate posts (and I can’t even sound it out if it’s in Cyrillic)…
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> If you must use other languages, can you add a translation? (You can spoiler it if you want)

Actually that is pretty much the Board’s rule. The “add a translation” part of the request. We’re an English speaking board.

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2022, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/547 "2022-02-23T02:36:18Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> Be fair! I put the phonetic translation! (And everyone knows ‘pravda’ means ‘truth’, and ‘sotsial’naya’ is easily figured out based on the ‘Truth Social’ that preceded it.) 😛

You did well, young padawan…

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2022, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/548 "2022-02-23T20:52:34Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Actually that is pretty much the Board’s rule. The “add a translation” part of the request. We’re an English speaking board.

[Moderating]  
What he said. Please post in English, or provide a translation.  
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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2022, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/549 "2022-02-23T21:45:07Z")

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Will Slippery Donald skate yet again? Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg questions whether Trump prosecution should continue; two top prosecutors on the case abruptly resign.

> **[Prosecutors leading Trump probe in Manhattan abruptly resign after their...](https://www.rawstory.com/prosecutors-leading-trump-probe-in-manhattan-abruptly-resign-after-their-grand-jury-stalls/)**
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> Two top prosecutors in the office of the Manhattan District Attorney have “abruptly” resigned, throwing the fraud case against Donald Trump into jeopardy.The New York Times reports the new Manhattan DA, Alvin Bragg, “indicated” to the two prosecutors...

> **['Something's fishy': Legal experts question prosecutor resignations as DA...](https://www.rawstory.com/manhattan-da-trump-prosecutors-questions/)**
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> It was reported Wednesday that two prosecutors with the Manhattan District Attorney's office have resigned after they say District Attorney Alvin Bragg doesn't want to criminally charge former President Donald Trump in the fraud case. Some have noted...

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2022, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/550 "2022-02-23T21:46:19Z")

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I heard about this earlier today and it just leaves me feeling ill.

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2022, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/551 "2022-02-23T21:48:53Z")

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> [@Aspenglow](#):
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> I heard about this earlier today and it just leaves me feeling ill. &nbsp;

A lengthier story at WaPo already:

> **[Prosecutors in Trump probe quit after new DA seems to abandon plan to seek...](https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/02/23/prosecutors-resign-trump-criminal-investigation/)**
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> Former district attorney Cyrus Vance had committed to seeking an indictment of Trump, people familiar with the matter said, but new district attorney Alvin Bragg has seemed uninterested.

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**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2022, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/552 "2022-02-23T22:29:28Z")

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I just read this piece regarding the new app…

> **[Trump’s Truth Social’s disastrous launch raises doubts about its long-term...](https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Trump-s-Truth-Social-s-disastrous-launch-raises-16938916.php)**
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> “The basic thing they needed to actually get right to get someone in the door, they couldn’t get right,” one researcher said.

I like this part:  
_Even a copycat site, [TMTGSocial.com](http://TMTGSocial.com), which someone unaffiliated with Trump registered after Trump’s allies first announced Truth Social in October, now has hundreds of users - posting pro-Trump content, seemingly under the impression they’ve joined the real thing._

_For months, many of them have been posting comments and photos, friending each other and following fake Trump accounts. Others have voiced their excitement that Trump is, as one said, about to “let the TRUTH PREVAIL.”_

_The site gives no indication that it’s phony and has a fake Trump profile that includes the former president’s birthday, photos and location (“Mar-a-Lago Club”). When Trump’s son posted last week that his father had shared his first message on the Truth Social beta site, someone at the fake site quickly copied it: “Get Ready! Your favorite President will see you soon!”_

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**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2022, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/553 "2022-02-23T23:41:01Z")

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This just seems like such incredible BS. It seemed like we had him… slam dunk… and Alvin Bragg backs off to the point that two ADAs resign? 🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬

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This seems like somebody got bribed or threatened.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2022, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/554 "2022-02-24T01:11:01Z")

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> [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](#):
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> This seems like somebody got bribed or threatened.

Maybe. The story I’m reading is that because Trump did so much verbally, that the DA doesn’t think there’s enough evidence for a conviction (the two prosecutors obviously disagree). That sounds mobster-ish enough to be believable. But who knows if that’s the truth or a cover. Either is plausible where Trump is involved.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2022, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/555 "2022-02-24T01:17:44Z")

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[https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/81784997.jpg](https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/81784997.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2022, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/556 "2022-02-24T01:30:05Z")

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Heh, there are a few lawyers I follow in various forms of social media (YouTube, web comic, etc.) and they say “it’s never RICO” the way House used to say “it’s never Lupus”. 😆

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**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2022, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/557 "2022-02-24T01:44:46Z")

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\< Stealing \>

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2022, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/558 "2022-02-24T13:41:20Z")

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> [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](#):
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> It seemed like we had him… slam dunk… and Alvin Bragg backs off to the point that two ADAs resign

Was commenting elsewhere – Bragg apparently has done little to dispel the notion that he does not care to prosecute anything that does not end with blood on the floor or a firearm discharge, out of some sort of ideological commitment to not have anyone sleep at Riker’s who does not have literal blood on his hands.

This hints at that it does not only mean shoplifters and street dealers, but also applies at the opposite, white-collar end. Raises the possibility that what was driving his campaign was not all on the “oh the poor disadvantaged street suspects” side of things…

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2022, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/559 "2022-02-24T16:04:46Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> [Moderating]  
> What he said. Please post in English, or provide a translation.  
> [/Moderating]

Is the occasional bon mot okay? 🙂

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2022, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/560 "2022-02-24T17:44:57Z")

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> Is the occasional bon mot okay? 🙂

I think we have carte blanche for that sort of thing.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2022, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/561 "2022-02-24T17:58:50Z")

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Que sera, sera.

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