# Citizen Trump (et al.) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 13, 2021, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458 "2021-01-13T17:51:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2021, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/41 "2021-01-15T23:21:33Z")
> [@Jasmine](#): > > There is an old saying that, even in the seemingly worst people, there resides some good. I think Donald Trump has proven once and for all that, like many other old sayings, it simply isn’t true. He’s the exception that proves the rule. 😛 Yes, I know that if there’s an exception, that proves the rule invalid. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2021, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/42 "2021-01-15T23:28:30Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > If he does loot, they can nail him for it, right? 🤞 He may not be President after next week. But he’ll still be a rich white man. So basically, no. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/43 "2021-01-16T02:16:50Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Oh boy, are they going to throw all of his shit out of the windows and onto the lawn? Donnie, Donnie, smarten up. This doesn’t have to look bad. NARRATOR: _“But of course, he didn’t smarten up. And things continued to look bad.”_ ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/44 "2021-01-16T03:53:00Z")
> [@susan](#): > > He owns real estate. Easy enough to house himself. Until Deutsche Bank et.al. foreclose on all of it. ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/45 "2021-01-16T04:10:14Z")
True. ---
**Author:** ![Saintly\_Loser](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saintly_loser/32/4045_2.png) [@Saintly\_Loser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saintly_Loser)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/46 "2021-01-16T19:01:30Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > And if they run an inventory in a couple of weeks and see things are missing, what do they do? Call Trump up in Florida and ask him if he “accidentally” packed up some artworks? He’ll deny it. If Trump retreats to Mar-A-Lago and fades out of the public eye, I really don’t care if he steals every scrap of silverware and every painting and half the furniture on his way out. That would be a small price to pay. And maybe he will just fade out. I think the actual leadership of the Republican Party will not be sorry to see the back of him, and he’s been more or less de-platformed. The one that worries me is Ivanka Trump. Apparently she and her RealDoll, Jared, are moving to Florida (because they’re no doubt painfully aware that they’re not welcome in New York anymore). And it is, sadly, completely within the realm of possibility that she can get herself elected to the Senate from there. Certainly to the House. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/47 "2021-01-16T19:05:13Z")
She’d be subjected to ethics investigations (formal and informal) from the second she declared her candidacy, tho. ---
**Author:** ![mikecurtis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikecurtis/32/3284_2.png) [@mikecurtis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mikecurtis)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/48 "2021-01-16T19:21:04Z")
I can’t tell if y’all are just being snarky or not, but the president and his family don’t do their own packing. There’s an army of about 95 people who, on inauguration day, pack up the outgoing, clean, refurbish as necessary, paint and move in the incoming all in about 5 hours. The moving team has been coordinating with the Trumps to list what goes where and has been working with the Bidens, packing up their stuff. But the Trump’s stuff is still unpacked and will stay that way until the 20th. It’s a logistical tour de force that doesn’t get enough praise. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/49 "2021-01-16T19:26:55Z")
> [@Saintly\_Loser](#): > > If Trump retreats to Mar-A-Lago and fades out of the public eye, I really don’t care if he steals every scrap of silverware and every painting and half the furniture on his way out. That would be a small price to pay. We’re not going to do that again, are we? We’ve made that same mistake so many times. We “put what’s happened behind us” and we “move on”. We let Republicans commit crimes for four or eight years and then we let them retire quietly and keep all of the prizes they got from their crimes. You want to know what Republicans have learned from this? That you can commit crimes for four or eight years and then retire quietly and keep all of the prizes you get from your crimes. We show them that crime pays and then wonder why we keep seeing new criminals. You worry about Ivanka running for office? Let her visit her father in prison. That will teach her why people should obey the law. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/50 "2021-01-16T19:36:22Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > You want to know what Republicans have learned from this? That you can commit crimes for four or eight years and then retire quietly and keep all of the prizes you get from your crimes. While leaving Democrats with a huge national mess to clean up from your criminality, irresponsibility and incompetence, and then blaming the Democrats for the mess when they can’t clear it up immediately. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/51 "2021-01-16T19:38:16Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > You worry about Ivanka running for office? Let her visit her father in prison. That will teach her why people should obey the law. - Would she be allowed to leave the women’s section for such a visit? ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/52 "2021-01-16T20:02:31Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Would she be allowed to leave the women’s section for such a visit? “Why are you denying my application to see my daughter?” “Well, Mr President, I don’t think you understand what it is you requested.” “I know what a conjugal visit is.” ---
**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/53 "2021-01-16T21:53:55Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > I know what a conjugal visit is.” 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/54 "2021-01-16T22:05:47Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > He’s the exception that proves the rule. 😛 > > Yes, I know that if there’s an exception, that proves the rule invalid. Did you realize (many people don’t) that there’s a sensible original meaning for this nonsensical aphorism? If a street sign says “No Parking Tuesdays”, there is no need to spell out that you _can_ park on any other day, that’s obviously implied. Stating the exception implies (or proves) the existence of the underlying general rule. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/55 "2021-01-16T22:16:30Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > No judge would issue a search warrant in a case like this. Government owned property is missing, and there is photographic evidence of somebody removing it? Why wouldn’t a judge issue a warrant? (I’m sure it will turn out to have been moved for cleaning, but assuming it’s true that this is a Trump aide who has been told to pack it up with his stuff.) ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/56 "2021-01-16T22:20:55Z")
> [@Riemann](#): > > Did you realize (many people don’t) that there’s a sensible original meaning for this nonsensical aphorism? > > If a street sign says “No Parking Tuesdays”, there is no need to spell out that you _can_ park on any other day, that’s obviously implied. Stating the exception implies (or proves) the existence of the underlying general rule. Yup, the Perfect Master himself [explained this in response to a correction by a reader](https://www.chicagoreader.com/chicago/the-straight-dope/Content?oid=878782). ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2021, 7:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/57 "2021-01-17T07:12:53Z")
> [@Riemann](#): > > Government owned property is missing, and there is photographic evidence of somebody removing it? Why wouldn’t a judge issue a warrant? In the hypothetical scenario I described, the situation was the Trumps left the White House with unsearched luggage and then some items were discovered missing from an inventory taken two weeks later. That’s enough to justify questioning them but it’s not enough probable cause to justify a search warrant. Trump’s lawyers would point out that hundreds of people had gone in and out of the White House in the period between inventories. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2021, 11:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/58 "2021-01-17T11:42:48Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Trump’s lawyers would point out that hundreds of people had gone in and out of the White House in the period between inventories. And one of them left with a large bronze bust of Lincoln concealed up their sleeve? And another left with the entire White House fine china collection up _ **their** _ sleeve? I’m imagining the Fox News take on items missing from the official inventory: Biden has barely been in office a week, and he’s already stolen stuff! ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2021, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/59 "2021-01-17T19:22:37Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > She’d be subjected to ethics investigations No problem. She has none. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2021, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/60 "2021-01-17T23:04:12Z")
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