# Citizen Trump (et al.) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 13, 2021, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458 "2021-01-13T17:51:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 33
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2022, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/642 "2022-03-26T20:25:35Z")
I worked at Bangor one summer as a casual laborer (meaning that the job I was doing depended on the needs of the day). While my memory of the time is less than crystal clear, I do recall that I had to pass a security clearance in order to handle the ashes of obsolete technical documents that had already been incinerated twice. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2022, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/643 "2022-03-26T22:24:01Z")
> [@OttoDaFe](#): > > I worked at Bangor one summer as a casual laborer (meaning that the job I was doing depended on the needs of the day). That’s one of the sorts of jobs I had at Bangor. I worked as a contractor for Johnson Controls back then. That was about 25 years ago. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2022, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/644 "2022-03-27T04:02:38Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > What if we put Chinese flags on the subs? Or should we put them on the missles, too? Loudspeakers playing _The East is Red_ kind of like _The Ride of the Valkyries_ on Hueys in _Apocalypse now._ ---
**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2022, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/645 "2022-03-30T19:21:44Z")
This is one of those times that 45 IQ is right, but for the wrong reason. Ballistic missile submarines (or “strategic platforms” as my ex-Navy friend liked to refer to them) do rely on stealth to a certain extent. So if the time comes, they can launch their arsenal with a minimum of interference, e.g. an attack submarine buggering them with a torpedo. But yeah, he sounds like that drunk uncle nobody wants to invite to family dinners. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2022, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/646 "2022-03-30T20:59:51Z")
> [@CaptMurdock](#): > > Ballistic missile submarines (or “strategic platforms” as my ex-Navy friend liked to refer to them) do rely on stealth to a certain extent. I thought stealth was the entire purpose of submarines. Why else put them underwater? ---
**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2022, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/647 "2022-03-30T21:02:04Z")
Good point. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2022, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/648 "2022-03-30T21:56:59Z")
> [@CaptMurdock](#): > > 45 IQ You are being too generous. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2022, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/649 "2022-04-02T00:34:09Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > Why else put them underwater? So they can see the fish? ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2022, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/650 "2022-04-02T02:26:35Z")
hard to do when there are no portholes ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2022, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/651 "2022-04-02T02:36:42Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > hard to do when there are no portholes - They can’t look through the screen door? ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2022, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/652 "2022-07-05T22:18:21Z")
Russian state television says that Russia is going to reinstate Individual 1 as President of the US. > **[Russia State TV Considering Reinstalling Trump as President](https://www.newsweek.com/russia-state-tv-reinstate-donald-trump-president-us-1721905)** > > A Russian state TV host said Russia will "have to think whether to reinstall him again as the American president" and that the country hasn't "decided yet." ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2022, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/653 "2022-07-05T23:46:52Z")
One “television host” says that, blathering about a lot of stuff that never happened. Both your description and Newsweek’s headline are inaccurate, based on the contents of the story. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2022, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/654 "2022-07-05T23:51:40Z")
So you’re saying it wasn’t said on Russian state tv? ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2022, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/655 "2022-07-06T00:36:46Z")
> [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > Both your description and Newsweek’s headline are inaccurate, based on the contents of the story. You are half correct. Russian stat TV did say they were considering reinstalling Trump as president. Rick (I am guessing through mistaken omission) stated that the show claimed Russia is going to do it. Quibbles aside, I find the article interesting for 2 reasons. 1. The implication that Russia has the power to dictate who the US President is. 2. The need for Russia (through state-controlled media) to lie and make Trump an antagonist against Russia. I am guessing he is so unpopular even over there that they need to use him as the face of the enemy, rather than the fawning sycophant that he is. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2022, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/656 "2022-07-06T03:20:24Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > The need for Russia (through state-controlled media) to lie and make Trump an antagonist against Russia. I am guessing he is so unpopular even over there that they need to use him as the face of the enemy, rather than the fawning sycophant that he is. Naw. He’ll just say that it’s fake news and he and Putin are still buddy-buddy. That, or he’ll shrug and say, “so what? what are you going to do about it?”. It’s not as if he hasn’t been able to do pretty much everything he ever wanted to before, legal or no. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2022, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/657 "2022-07-06T03:33:18Z")
> [@Morgyn](#): > > Naw. He’ll just say that it’s fake news and he and Putin are still buddy-buddy. Sure, but the Russians will never hear any of that. ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2022, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/658 "2022-07-06T15:37:28Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > So you’re saying it wasn’t said on Russian state tv? No, I’m saying that the apparently ad lib statements of one announcer do not equal Russian state TV policy, and by extension do not equal Russian state policy or opinion. > [@Atamasama](#): > > You are half correct. Russian stat TV did say they were considering reinstalling Trump as president. See above. One announcer made an apparently ad lib assertion, which may or may not be indicative of something significant. Sorry if you think this distinction is a quibble. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2022, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/659 "2022-07-10T20:51:02Z")
Individual 1 is trying to get the Wisconsin Presidential election overturned now that the state Supreme Court has ruled that ballot drop boxes are illegal. > **[Trump Calls On Wis. GOP To Nullify Elector Votes, Make Him Victor After...](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-toss-wisconsin-election-results-victor-ballot-boxes_n_62c9f69ee4b0d74019844775)** > > Here we go again. ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2022, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/660 "2022-07-10T21:30:38Z")
It has been speculated that ‘if’ he runs, he’ll pull along Sarah Palin as his running mate. This is based on speeches he just made in Alaska. Maybe she should accept? I mean, if Russia reneges on the Alaska Purchase and tries to retake Alaska by force ( [as a Putin Aid has recently threatened](https://www.newsweek.com/alaska-ours-billboards-appear-russia-after-threat-reclaim-state-1722761) ) she certainly won’t have any front porch left to go home to. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2022, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/661 "2022-07-11T02:56:12Z")
Hey! So Russia has a claim to Alaska. Doesn’t that mean Palin is Russian citizen? She’s not eligible! \*How’s that for a conspiracy theory? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458.md?page=32) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458.md?page=34)