# Citizen Trump (et al.) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 13, 2021, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458 "2021-01-13T17:51:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![kitap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b9e5f3/32.png) [@kitap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kitap)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2021, 8:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/81 "2021-01-19T08:39:05Z")
\*\*[quote=“Little\_Nemo, post:76, topic:930458, full:true”] > [@Morgyn](#): > > I’m more worried that the GOP will run Junior or, worse, Ivanka. She’s pretty enough for a whole host of testosterone-poisoned white supremacists to slaver after her, especially if she continues Daddy’s rhetoric. I don’t think it will happen. Trump’s crowd is hardcore sexist. They might slaver over Ivanka but they wouldn’t vote for her. [/quote] She clearly wants to go into politics, but someone on here (I think) pointed out that she converted to Judaism and would the Trumpies vote for a Jewish president? ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2021, 8:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/82 "2021-01-19T08:53:38Z")
It’s not a matter of femininity, it’s a matter of strength. MAGAts worship strength above all things. They somehow saw it in her father - where, I don’t know, but they did - but I don’t think they’ll see it in her. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2021, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/83 "2021-01-19T13:18:29Z")
Hillary is strong. The current crop of white house people are such snowflakes they hide from any congressional scrutiny, whereas she took the stand, unfazed for hours. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2021, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/84 "2021-01-19T13:26:10Z")
I agree - but she’s a Democrat, and thus beneath contempt. ---
**Author:** ![Saintly\_Loser](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saintly_loser/32/4045_2.png) [@Saintly\_Loser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saintly_Loser)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2021, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/85 "2021-01-19T14:18:19Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > I don’t think it will happen. Trump’s crowd is hardcore sexist. They might slaver over Ivanka but they wouldn’t vote for her. > [@kitap](#): > > She clearly wants to go into politics, but someone on here (I think) pointed out that she converted to Judaism and would the Trumpies vote for a Jewish president? > [@Alessan](#): > > It’s not a matter of femininity, it’s a matter of strength. MAGAts worship strength above all things. They somehow saw it in her father - where, I don’t know, but they did - but I don’t think they’ll see it in her. I think you’re all wrong (unfortunately). It’s true that the Trump crowd is sexist and largely anti-Semitic, but Ivanka Trump would be an exception. She would be perceived as sort of an extension of her father. She’s fairly good on television or on the stage at a rally. And the anti-Semitic Trumpists would think that she’s not _really_ a Jew, so they’d give her a pass on that (if they’re even aware of her conversion to Judaism). They’d just ignore it. I don’t think she’d go right to running for president. But she might go for a House seat from Florida, or even a Senate seat. Marco Rubio should be worried. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2021, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/86 "2021-01-19T14:26:10Z")
> [@Saintly\_Loser](#): > > I think you’re all wrong (unfortunately). It’s true that the Trump crowd is sexist and largely anti-Semitic, but Ivanka Trump would be an exception. I feel you’re underestimating their bigotry. ---
**Author:** ![Saintly\_Loser](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saintly_loser/32/4045_2.png) [@Saintly\_Loser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saintly_Loser)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2021, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/87 "2021-01-19T14:31:09Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > I feel you’re underestimating their bigotry. Believe me, I don’t underestimate their bigotry. I just think Ivanka Trump is a special case. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2021, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/88 "2021-01-19T16:06:17Z")
> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#): > > > [@Morgyn](#): > > > > As someone or other said, the Weimar Republic went easy on Hitler after the Beer Hall Putsch. Ten years later, he was Chancellor of Germany and then really bad things started to happen. > > Only for the Jews. And the Slavs. And gypsies. And gays. And Communists, or anyone accused of being a Communist. > > Deutsche Patrioten brauchen sich um nichts zu kümmern. > > Stranger _ **kd99** opens Google Translate_ \<_German patriots don’t have to worry about anything._\> Say, things really _DO_ sound better in the original German! ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.winston_oboogie/32/2945_2.png) [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Winston_OBoogie)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2021, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/89 "2021-01-19T16:07:07Z")
Yeah, she’s one of them “good” jews. (spoken with tongue firmly in cheek) Or, they’ll say she’s not “really” a Jew - she wasn’t born Jewish; she wasn’t raised Jewish, so she’s not one of them evil Zionists. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2021, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/90 "2021-01-19T16:09:47Z")
Randy Rainbow sums it all up…and says “Goodbye” to Citizen Trump [SEASONS OF TRUMP - A Randy Rainbow Song Parody - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzXBVkWASI4) ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2021, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/91 "2021-01-19T16:35:11Z")
Listening to KEXP ([KEXP 90.3 Playlist](https://www.kexp.org/playlist/)) at my desk. Interesting playlist this morning. I’m detecting a theme… _Everybody Wants to Rule the World_ – Tears For Fears _Let the Day Begin_ - Black Rebel Motorcycle Club _The Walls Came Down_ - The Call _Changes_ - David Bowie _Instant Karma_ - John Lennon & The Plastic Ono Band _People Have the Power_ - Patti Smith _The Last Day of Our Acquaintance_ - Sinéad O’Connor _Arrest The President_ - Ice Cube _Fortunate Son_ - Creedence Clearwater Revival _Danny Nedelko_ - Idles (Album: ‘Joy as an Act of Resistance’) _This Is Radio Clash_ - The Clash _All You Fascists Bound to Lose_ - Billy Bragg and The Blokes _Hit the Road Jack_ - Ray Charles _These Boots Are Made for Walkin’_ - Nancy Sinatra _Na Na Hey Hey Kiss Him Goodbye_ - Steam _Another One Bites the Dust_ – Queen _World Leader Pretend_ - R.E.M. _Orange Crush_ - R.E.M. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2021, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/92 "2021-01-19T17:03:28Z")
DJ: ‘OK, it’s nine o’clock! Been waiting to play this one!’ (Note: It would be noon back East.) I Wanna Be Sedated - Ramones ♫ 20, 20, 20, 4, hours to go ♫ ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2021, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/93 "2021-01-19T17:05:04Z")
Cross posting: These guys have been a guiding light for so much of my life; of course they come thru again: > [@](#): > > Twenty-, twenty-, twenty-, twenty-four hours to go > I wanna be sedated > Nothing to do, nowhere to go, oh > I wanna be sedated [![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/bm51ihfi1p4/hqdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEmCOADEOgC8quKqQMa8AEB-AH-BIAC4AOKAgwIABABGHIgTSg1MA8=&rs=AOn4CLDqqnzhJs7eN6PWn22tSfWIlvnWKg "Ramones - I Wanna Be Sedated (Official Music Video)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bm51ihfi1p4) [https://trumpevictionclock.com/?fbclid=IwAR3qjVXekRPO6kcRpzMS5iwqLljrjEXMv2FgbUw8nncuPavlAWz8HwQkgyw](https://trumpevictionclock.com/?fbclid=IwAR3qjVXekRPO6kcRpzMS5iwqLljrjEXMv2FgbUw8nncuPavlAWz8HwQkgyw) ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2021, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/94 "2021-01-19T17:06:29Z")
They just played that on KEXP. 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2021, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/95 "2021-01-19T17:16:57Z")
Great minds think alike, eh. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2021, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/96 "2021-01-19T18:10:15Z")
Loved the eviction clock and the Ramones. My soul needed both today. Gonna be a loooooong day, holding my breath hoping he trundles off out of sight without using the nuclear option literally or figuratively. 22, 21, 20 hours to go… ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2021, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/97 "2021-01-20T17:36:38Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > I don’t think it will happen. Trump’s crowd is hardcore sexist. They might slaver over Ivanka but they wouldn’t vote for her. Well to be fair, her father slavered over her but never, so far as I can tell, voted for her. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2021, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/98 "2021-01-21T01:14:19Z")
> [@Saintly\_Loser](#): > > I think you’re all wrong (unfortunately). It’s true that the Trump crowd is sexist and largely anti-Semitic, but Ivanka Trump would be an exception. > > She would be perceived as sort of an extension of her father. She’s fairly good on television or on the stage at a rally. And the anti-Semitic Trumpists would think that she’s not _really_ a Jew, so they’d give her a pass on that (if they’re even aware of her conversion to Judaism). They’d just ignore it. > > I don’t think she’d go right to running for president. But she might go for a House seat from Florida, or even a Senate seat. Marco Rubio should be worried. Can we say “Eva Perón”? Of course we can. Or at least our RW nutbags can. Ivanka will act like a Queen simply _entitled_ to the throne and it’ll sell awesomely well. Especially when the paid media talking heads and the social media paid opinion setters = Russian plants all line up to sing her praises. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2021, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/99 "2021-01-21T05:43:49Z")
> [@Folacin](#): > > Until Deutsche Bank et.al. foreclose on all of it. Ohpleaseohpleaseohplease ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2021, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458/100 "2021-01-21T06:29:40Z")
> [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > > [@Folacin](#): > > > > Until Deutsche Bank et.al. foreclose on all of it. > > Ohpleaseohpleaseohplease   Which of his properties, exactly, can Deutsche Bank (or any bank) foreclose on? ISTM I saw it mentioned in some article recently, and it seemed like not a whole lot. One or two of his golf courses, and a few of his (smaller?) buildings in New York or Chicago? I don’t recall, except that it seemed not-impressive. I don’t think Trump Tower was on the list. Can the bank(s) foreclose on properties of Trump other than those they have loans out on? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/citizen-trump-et-al/930458.md?page=6)