So Im playing along as Washington. Suddenly 3 people declare war on me one turn. Only one is close to me, and I have a good set of cities to produce. The one close to me is greece, and we are seperated by two blobs of mountains with a pass in the middle.
He start attacking with a much greater army then I expected from his crummy Empire. He attacks the city to the right, I defend it barely. His next attack is on the left city, I defend it pretty well. Third he attacks the left city again. I have to scramble pretty good to get enough units around to defend it. But now the center city, by far the best is vulnerable. He swarms, I fight valiantly, but can see he will take it.
Suddenly the other two war declarers want peace, I accept. The next turn greece takes Atlanta, with Units to spare. I resign myself to a focused campaign for many turns to get it back. On my turn after, I change all production to war!!!.
Then WTF? On his next turn he completely surrenders. He wants peace and offers, Atlanta back, another fairly crappy city of his, 300 gold( a buttload for the world right then) horses, iron, and gems, just to stop the war.
I accept of course, but either there is a huge bug, or he had one hell of a change of heart. Unless the computer is using cheat spies to see the can of whup-ass ass I had a brewin with the production change.
I wasn’t going to stop at recovering Atlanta, of course I was going to steamroll all the way to Athens once the army was built, But I can’t figure out if he was really smart, or really stupid.
I had kind of the opposite. Caesar threatened me a few times, especially after founding my 2nd city. When I saw his settler heading for a spot I wanted to build on (my settler was still a few turns from being finished) I told him not build near my empire. he basically told me to go screw myself so i jacked his settler. this meant war.
I thought I did, but he never attacked. So I strolled up to Rome and jacked his worker. (I knew I couldn’t take the city with one archer. ) He then sued for peace. Great Caesar…BAH! Great chicken is more like it.
That game wasn’t working out too well for me, though. I think I’m just now getting the idea of happiness affecting stuff. Plus, by the early AD’s I had no access to iron, only Bismark did…and he took it by conquering a city state. (He conquered a few of them to be honest.) He was on a warpath, and I had an open border agreement with him so I saw him entirely massive army on the move raping and pillaging the other AI civ that has a name I forgot.
Bismark…that reminds me…I need to go to the Civfanatic Forums to chuckle at the inevitable “Why isn’t Hitler a Empire Leader in Civ 5” threads.
Yeah, the AI is messed up. During your first war, the AI will try to end it by giving you everything it has. Every time after that it’ll never accept anything but straight peace.
There is obviously some play concepts that are broken and after playing a few hours today I had just had enough so instead I decided to see what I could do to change things.
I downloaded Sid Meier’s Civilization V SDK from Steam’s ‘tools’ and gave it a whorl. In 20 minutes I had a bare bones World War Two scenario all laid out. It’s easy, there are plenty of great features, it’s incredibly straightforward and intuitive. I’ll have to read a little of the mod manual before I can post the complete mod packet but I love it so far.
With this kind of ease I anticipate a flood of great additions/fixes very quickly.
The slow rate of expansion is still bothering me, I must say. I mean, I’m 100 turns into an Epic game and no-one has more than two cities, and my three military units (Warrior, Archer, Horseman) currently comprise the largest army on the planet, according to a recent “Who Has The Pointiest Sticks” survey.
One thing I did notice is that, by the Industrial Era, I did start to feel that I’d moved from overseeing a collection of city-states to running an Empire of sorts.
The actual City-States in the game seem to be a mixed bag, though- I enjoy the capacity to simulate Colonial Wars that they offer, but I dislike the way if you capture more than about three, everyone else gangs up on you.
What’s happening is that the peace treaty was part of an agreement that included some elements that lasted a longer number of turns. You get reminded every turn between when the peace treaty lapses and when the resource trade or whatever lapses. Annoying.
How do you install mods? I thought the purpose of moving over to Steam is so that it is easier to install mods, though I haven’t see any mod menu or directory for that in the game.
It’s right there on the main menu - titled “mods”. You can either browse mods or single player. Browse let’s you pick the mods you want to look at and install and then you press “single player” within the mods section to set up a game using them.
Because the game is completely integrated with Steam it’s done through the game, so if what you’re asking is “when will mods be downloadable through the steam client” the answer is that they won’t, it would be a redundant feature.
I spent way too much time playing yesterday. I made it to the late industrial age (1900 ad in game time)but I think Bismarck is going to take the game. He’s on a different continent but he’s wiped out everyone there with the exception of Elizabeth who is definitely going to be next on his list. He’s been mopping up the floor with the civs and city states over there.
I’ve only fought 3 wars, all of them against Askia. The first one I started because he was going to plant a city in an area I wanted. Plus he’d been rattling a saber at me all the time so I figured a war was unavoidable. He was laughably easy to beat even though we were equal on tech terms. The 2nd was when he DoW’d on my ally, Stockholm. The dummy even told me he was going to do it. Again, h was repelled rather easily. He gave up and sued for peace fast. the last war he plucked the wrong nerve and attacked Singapore. I took 4 of his cities and made them puppets. I would have destroyed him, but I really didn’t have the troops to do it easily. At least not without leaving my border with rome undefended. Rome took China out so really I should have attacked them earlier to curb their growth, but then Askia would probably taken advantage of that and attacked my other border.
I can’t seem to keep my people happy…I’m probably doing it wrong, but the luxury system seems restrictive. I even pillaged my own farms to keep cities from growing, but it got ridiculous. In the end happiness is going to cost me the game. I just wonder how Germany is doing it…with the empires he’s taken his unhappiness must be high or he has a way to counter it. Even with multiple luxury goods my people are sad sacks.
You don’t have to pillage farms to keep cities from growing, there’s a “no growth” option under citizen focus.
Hover over the happiness number in the top left and see what’s killing you. Occupied cities have a lot of unhappiness… you can take that away by building a courthouse or conquering them as puppets. If it’s other stuff, there are solutions to everything. Make sure you’re trading for every last resource luxury you can.
I haven’t tried this yet, but it may be a good idea to make cities into puppet states for a few tens of turns, wait for everything to settle down, get some improvements build, and then convert them over into fully controlled cities.
I tend to keep them puppets but keep an eye on what they’re building. If it’s something that I would build anyway I leave them to it. When they start building a barracks I annex them and start building a courthouse straight away.
Happiness can be a problem but I focus on picking my early city sites based on what luxuries are there. There are plenty of happy buildings, trading with AI and social polices to help, it just takes work.
I got quite annoyed in my current game, I was playing peacefully on a continent with 2 other civs. The Iroquois and I were good friends so when he asked me to join him against the Japanese who had attacked him I did and took most of their cities. He then asked me to go to war against them again, so I did and finished them off. After that he’s suddenly “hostile” towards me and when we talk he says it’s because I’m a warmonger?! :rolleyes:
Apart from helping him I didn’t attack anyone other than a city state on another continent (and that may have been after he became hostile anyway). In the end he attacked me and I had to finish him off too.
I got that too - Japan is desperately asking me to attack pretty much everyone and anyone else and then after a couple of wars with him he got sniffy with me for being a barbarian. So I’m currently tearing my way across his country now, razing everything in sight.
I think they need to work on their insulting mechanic.
I liberated a Babylonian city and brought them back in the game. Now, they were completely destroyed until I came along. Three turns later after I saved them Nebby insulted my army or something. I obviously couldn’t let that go so I burned his only city to the ground.
