# Civ III help requested. I'm getting pissed.

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**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [November 6, 2001, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/civ-iii-help-requested-im-getting-pissed/91731 "2001-11-06T04:16:03Z")\
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**Author:** ![lurkernomore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d6d6ee/32.png) [@lurkernomore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lurkernomore)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2001, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/civ-iii-help-requested-im-getting-pissed/91731/21 "2001-11-07T14:19:59Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Kantalooppi \*  
> \*\*Grr. Americans who have the game while I don’t. Rrg.  
> \*\*

That is our Cultural Victory. 😃

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2001, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/civ-iii-help-requested-im-getting-pissed/91731/22 "2001-11-07T15:21:20Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by lurkernomore \*  
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> > [@](#):
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> > \*Originally posted by Kantalooppi \*  
> > \*\*Grr. Americans who have the game while I don’t. Rrg.  
> > \*\*
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> That is our Cultural Victory. 😃 \*\*

Us Canadians already have the game too. How irritating that we aren’t one of the civilizations. 🙂

(Expansionist, Commercial)

I was thinking the other day of what civilizations they should add to the game in the expansion they’re going to charge us $35 for to get multiplayer. So far I have come up with these, (plus their special unit):

- Canadian (of course) (Shock infantry)
- Korean (Hmmm…)
- Arab (Saracen, a new swordsman)
- Jewish (Bigger tank)
- Polynesian (Better galley)
- Inca (dunno)
- Viking (Berzerker? Or an early caravel?)
- Celt, just to satisfy the innumerable celtophiles/wannabe druids the Internet breeds like rabbits
- Thai (?)
- Maybe another African civ. Swahili?
- Spanish, or are they in the game already? (Conquistador)
- Swiss (Halberdsman)
- Dutch (?)
- Australian, just to get kangaroo infantry

Anyone else have any they’d like to see added?

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**Author:** ![lurkernomore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d6d6ee/32.png) [@lurkernomore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lurkernomore)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2001, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/civ-iii-help-requested-im-getting-pissed/91731/23 "2001-11-07T19:25:49Z")

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Rick,  
No slur meant to our northern friends. More a shared culture. We can send more electronic stuff up there than anywhere else under export laws, and you send us hockey players. (I wore a NY Ranger jacket to work today, myself, and have been to enough games I know the words to O Canada .) 😃

[sub] but will you please keep Celine Dion up there? [/sub]

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2001, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/civ-iii-help-requested-im-getting-pissed/91731/24 "2001-11-07T20:28:26Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Fenris \*  
> \*\*  
> Every Civ I’ve fought has pulled this: when the continent fills up, they start building useless cities everywhere. I can easily culturally assimilate them, but it’s pointless to do so, given that they’re like 2 squares from my next city. Since the only way to get rid of the city is to go to war, I’m constantly fighting.
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> \*\*

I haven’t gotten the game yet. I should have it tomorrow, but it seems to me that all of the pre-release hype said that the game wouldn’t do this. I remember reading that the game was tweaked to make it very, very difficult for settlers and engineers to travel into enemy territory.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2001, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/civ-iii-help-requested-im-getting-pissed/91731/25 "2001-11-07T20:40:28Z")

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> \*Originally posted by lurkernomore \*  
> \*\*[sub] but will you please keep Celine Dion up there? [/sub] \*\*

Friendship only goes so far.

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**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2001, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/civ-iii-help-requested-im-getting-pissed/91731/26 "2001-11-07T21:00:57Z")

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> [@](#):
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> I was thinking the other day of what civilizations they should add to the game in the expansion they’re going to charge us $35 for to get multiplayer. So far I have come up with these, (plus their special unit):
> 
> - Canadian (of course) (Shock infantry)
> - Korean (Hmmm…)
> - Arab (Saracen, a new swordsman)  
> …
> - Australian, just to get kangaroo infantry
> 
> Anyone else have any they’d like to see added?

I have my CivII permanently edited where Germany is now Poland (renamed the leaders, cities, etc).

Special Unit: [Winged Hussar](http://www.rencentral.com/sept_vol1/hussars.shtml)

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**Author:** ![Flypsyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f0a364/32.png) [@Flypsyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flypsyde)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2001, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/civ-iii-help-requested-im-getting-pissed/91731/27 "2001-11-07T21:43:47Z")

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Yep, it’s one in 16 for the leader.It does suck, and suck mightily at that. I’ve only done it once, when I was grinding the Aztecs into a fine meal. Unfortunately, I got him after taking their last city, so I didn’t really get to use him.

RickJ, I do have to take issue with your assertion that Music Theory is a crappy tech. there is almost no Wonder held higher in my esteem than Bach’s Cathedral.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2001, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/civ-iii-help-requested-im-getting-pissed/91731/28 "2001-11-07T22:07:32Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Flypsyde \*  
> \*\*Yep, it’s one in 16 for the leader.It does suck, and suck mightily at that. I’ve only done it once, when I was grinding the Aztecs into a fine meal. Unfortunately, I got him after taking their last city, so I didn’t really get to use him.
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> RickJ, I do have to take issue with your assertion that Music Theory is a crappy tech. there is almost no Wonder held higher in my esteem than Bach’s Cathedral. \*\*

True, assuming you have yet to build the Cathedral. However, _if you’ve already built Bach’s Cathedral,_\* it’s a dead-end tech. There’s no reason to get it…

…and yet they’ll still pay through the nose for it.

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**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2001, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/civ-iii-help-requested-im-getting-pissed/91731/29 "2001-11-08T02:15:41Z")

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Man, is it just me or are the leaders in CivIII the ugliest bunch of people you’ve ever seen in a game? They all look like pale corpses! Even Cleopatra looks like she’s about 95 years old with thin drawn lips and a permanent glare. And Queen Elizabeth and Catherine the Great look like they’re constructed out of paste and wax. Ick, ick, ick!

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**Author:** ![Badtz\_Maru](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e36b37/32.png) [@Badtz\_Maru](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Badtz_Maru)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2001, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/civ-iii-help-requested-im-getting-pissed/91731/30 "2001-11-08T05:36:21Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by adam yax \*  
> \*\*
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> > [@](#):
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> > \*Originally posted by Fenris \*  
> > \*\*  
> > Every Civ I’ve fought has pulled this: when the continent fills up, they start building useless cities everywhere. I can easily culturally assimilate them, but it’s pointless to do so, given that they’re like 2 squares from my next city. Since the only way to get rid of the city is to go to war, I’m constantly fighting.
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> > \*\*
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> I haven’t gotten the game yet. I should have it tomorrow, but it seems to me that all of the pre-release hype said that the game wouldn’t do this. I remember reading that the game was tweaked to make it very, very difficult for settlers and engineers to travel into enemy territory. \*\*

If you are on friendly terms with your neighbor you shouldn’t have problems sending non-combat units into their territory - I can only remember one complaint about non-combat units. If you aren’t friendly with them, they could be in trouble, as unescorted settlers and workers are automatically captured when an enemy military unit moves onto them.

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**Author:** ![Meatros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Meatros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meatros)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2001, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/civ-iii-help-requested-im-getting-pissed/91731/31 "2001-11-08T15:16:37Z")

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I got a leader, who tried to raise an army. It was quite easy and unexpected actually. However I must say that I was losing territory by those bastard egyptions, so I think the computer might have “given” one to me.  
One irratating thing I’ve noticed is that in addition to cities every 4 feet the computer also has monsterous reserve forces of warriors who take out my best soldiers.  
Currently I’m on an island and I have 5 cities and 5 archers-no need for more because I don’t have contact with other armies.  
I need a way to get money fast though.

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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2001, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/civ-iii-help-requested-im-getting-pissed/91731/32 "2001-11-08T16:15:59Z")

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Those freakin’ warmongering Aztecs. Do you think they really disband a few warriors in our honor?

And it really does work better with more than one rival.

Question/gripe: If you don’t need the graneries after you build the Pyramid, why can’t you sell them? Also, can you bombard a harbor city with a Gallion?

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