# Civil Trial: Trump v E. Jean Carroll (Carroll wins, awarded $5 million, plus 83.3 million) **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [April 17, 2023, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/civil-trial-trump-v-e-jean-carroll-carroll-wins-awarded-5-million-plus-83-3-million/982820 "2023-04-17T21:59:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 34
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2024, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/civil-trial-trump-v-e-jean-carroll-carroll-wins-awarded-5-million-plus-83-3-million/982820/661 "2024-01-26T21:43:35Z")
Numbers according to CNN: Emotional harm: $7.3M Reputational harm: $11M Punitive damages: $65M ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2024, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/civil-trial-trump-v-e-jean-carroll-carroll-wins-awarded-5-million-plus-83-3-million/982820/662 "2024-01-26T21:43:42Z")
Got my wish then! 😃 😃 So, he’ll bitch about her in 2 hours, then what? Haul him back in again? ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2024, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/civil-trial-trump-v-e-jean-carroll-carroll-wins-awarded-5-million-plus-83-3-million/982820/663 "2024-01-26T21:44:12Z")
Crank up the fleece-a-rube machine! OK - just a civil penalty, but adds to his resume nicely! ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2024, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/civil-trial-trump-v-e-jean-carroll-carroll-wins-awarded-5-million-plus-83-3-million/982820/664 "2024-01-26T21:44:13Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > Tell us another few times and maybe we’ll get it. 🙂 _Le mot juste. Toujours, le mot juste._ ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2024, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/civil-trial-trump-v-e-jean-carroll-carroll-wins-awarded-5-million-plus-83-3-million/982820/665 "2024-01-26T21:44:15Z")
I take back what I said earlier. $83000000 might be enough to shut him up, at least WRT to this specific case. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2024, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/civil-trial-trump-v-e-jean-carroll-carroll-wins-awarded-5-million-plus-83-3-million/982820/666 "2024-01-26T21:44:34Z")
What happens now? At what point does he feel the pain from this? How much will he fundraise off this verdict? ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2024, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/civil-trial-trump-v-e-jean-carroll-carroll-wins-awarded-5-million-plus-83-3-million/982820/667 "2024-01-26T21:44:41Z")
> [@Locrian](#): > > I’m hoping it’s a BIG check he’s gotta provide. Around $50 million. Can a jury award Mar-a-Largo as punitive damages? ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2024, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/civil-trial-trump-v-e-jean-carroll-carroll-wins-awarded-5-million-plus-83-3-million/982820/668 "2024-01-26T21:44:53Z")
So does he stop defaming her? Predictions? Or maybe, how soon until he does it again? ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2024, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/civil-trial-trump-v-e-jean-carroll-carroll-wins-awarded-5-million-plus-83-3-million/982820/669 "2024-01-26T21:45:08Z")
> [@Locrian](#): > > So, he’ll bitch about her in 2 hours, then what? Do you think he can wait that long? If he can’t find a camera to stand in front of in the next half hour, it’ll be on social media, in all caps. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2024, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/civil-trial-trump-v-e-jean-carroll-carroll-wins-awarded-5-million-plus-83-3-million/982820/670 "2024-01-26T21:45:19Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > Can a jury award Mar-a-Largo as punitive damages? I’d say dumping Mar-A-Lago on someone is punitive for whoever is stuck with it. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2024, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/civil-trial-trump-v-e-jean-carroll-carroll-wins-awarded-5-million-plus-83-3-million/982820/671 "2024-01-26T21:46:07Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > At what point does he feel the pain from this? Does he have to front some or all of that money in order to appeal it? If he does, he’ll start feeling the pain today. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2024, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/civil-trial-trump-v-e-jean-carroll-carroll-wins-awarded-5-million-plus-83-3-million/982820/672 "2024-01-26T21:47:02Z")
Likely, but he could post a bond to cover it. If he can find a surety underwriter who is willing to do that, of course. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2024, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/civil-trial-trump-v-e-jean-carroll-carroll-wins-awarded-5-million-plus-83-3-million/982820/673 "2024-01-26T21:47:57Z")
Judge Kaplan to the jury > “My advice to you is that you never disclose that you were on this jury, and I won’t say anything more about it," he added. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2024, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/civil-trial-trump-v-e-jean-carroll-carroll-wins-awarded-5-million-plus-83-3-million/982820/674 "2024-01-26T21:48:03Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > Does he have to front some or all of that money in order to appeal it? If he does, he’ll start feeling the pain today. He has to post a bond or cash to prevent execution of the judgment pending appeal. The judgment is probably not going to be formally entered for a few days or weeks. He can appeal without posting the bond, but she could start attaching his assets. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2024, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/civil-trial-trump-v-e-jean-carroll-carroll-wins-awarded-5-million-plus-83-3-million/982820/675 "2024-01-26T21:49:09Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > she could start attaching his assets. Honestly, in my quick skim, I thought you said she could attach his ass. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2024, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/civil-trial-trump-v-e-jean-carroll-carroll-wins-awarded-5-million-plus-83-3-million/982820/676 "2024-01-26T21:49:11Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > At what point does he feel the pain from this? He’ll feel it when he has to post a bond, perhaps a cash bond, in the total amount of the verdict in order to appeal. He had to put up the $5 million to appeal the first Carroll verdict, in fact the cash bond was a total of $5.5 million. ---
**Author:** ![robby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robby/32/11048_2.png) [@robby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robby)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2024, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/civil-trial-trump-v-e-jean-carroll-carroll-wins-awarded-5-million-plus-83-3-million/982820/677 "2024-01-26T21:49:40Z")
> [@Locrian](#): > > I’m hoping it’s a BIG check he’s gotta provide. Around $50 million. Wow, the ordered damage award is even more than the $50 million hypothesized unthread, which is an order of magnitude greater than the first damage award of $5 million. Maybe he can go for an order of magnitude greater again when he inevitably defames her again. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2024, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/civil-trial-trump-v-e-jean-carroll-carroll-wins-awarded-5-million-plus-83-3-million/982820/678 "2024-01-26T21:50:18Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > … but she could start attaching his assets. “Ms. Carroll? We’re ready to fly you in your private plane to your new golf course now.” ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2024, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/civil-trial-trump-v-e-jean-carroll-carroll-wins-awarded-5-million-plus-83-3-million/982820/679 "2024-01-26T21:51:28Z")
> [@Dinsdale](#): > > What? How long were they out? Minutes? > > Kinda blows my mind that they coulda agreed on a number that quickly. Eager to hear! It’s always easy to agree on nice round numbers that don’t need nickel and diming. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2024, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/civil-trial-trump-v-e-jean-carroll-carroll-wins-awarded-5-million-plus-83-3-million/982820/680 "2024-01-26T21:54:41Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > “Ms. Carroll? We’re ready to fly you in your private plane to your new golf course now.” … And the homeless folks in Florida appreciate the donation!" That’s what I really want. His golf courses given to the poor. 😃 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/civil-trial-trump-v-e-jean-carroll-carroll-wins-awarded-5-million-plus-83-3-million/982820.md?page=33) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/civil-trial-trump-v-e-jean-carroll-carroll-wins-awarded-5-million-plus-83-3-million/982820.md?page=35)