# "Civil War This, Civil War That..." What a Maroon! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 7, 2006, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/civil-war-this-civil-war-that-what-a-maroon/367731 "2006-08-07T18:19:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2006, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/civil-war-this-civil-war-that-what-a-maroon/367731/61 "2006-08-09T02:54:08Z")
[QUOTE=Frostillicus] Speaking of the Kurds, at what point do they look at the clusterfuck that is the rest of Iraq and decide that the time is right to break away and form their own country? [/QUOTE] About [10 minutes before the Turks invade.](http://www.speroforum.com/site/article.asp?idCategory=33&idsub=125&id=4565) ---
**Author:** ![Rufus\_Xavier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/eada6e/32.png) [@Rufus\_Xavier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rufus_Xavier)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2006, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/civil-war-this-civil-war-that-what-a-maroon/367731/62 "2006-08-09T02:56:23Z")
I’m confused. I thought when the Iraqis went to the ballot box, they were selecting government representatives. Apparently, though, what they got was a piece of paper that said: Check One: Do you want Civil War? Yes \_\_\_\_ No \_\_\_\_ I’m not surprised they voted against civil war, I just can’t figure out where the “unity government” came from. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Lance\_Murdoch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/47e85d/32.png) [@Captain\_Lance\_Murdoch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Lance_Murdoch)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2006, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/civil-war-this-civil-war-that-what-a-maroon/367731/63 "2006-08-09T15:30:21Z")
I’m not surprised that different places have been informally referred to as “White House” in the past, but has anyone ever gone to such lengths to make it look like the real deal before? That sign looks just like the sign at the real White House. Perhaps Crawford will become the “Western Avignon.” Maybe this is just the start of whole new trend. We could have the Western Pentagon (Halliburton HQ, Houston, Texas), The Western Blair House (Cheney’s place, Dallas, Texas - er Wyoming - since he doesn’t live in Texas) and The Western National Intelligence Council (A luxury box at Ameriquest Field, Arlington, Texas). The whole folly of Bush seeing this strictly sectarian vote as a vote against civil war reminds me a bit of the spin that was put on the Lebanese elections last year. Remember how conservatives were falling all over each other at the time to get on the airwaves to declare that the vote in Lebanon was A) a consequence of the invasion of Iraq and B) a “tipping point” in the middle-east, because now democracy had taken root and was running wild. I’m not hearing too much of that talk today. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2006, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/civil-war-this-civil-war-that-what-a-maroon/367731/64 "2006-08-09T15:34:59Z")
[QUOTE=Boyo Jim] You folks just don’t get it. In a civil war two armies line either side of a field and exchange volleys of artillery and rifle fire. This is an **UN** civil war. All these booby traps and human bombs – what reasonable person would call that _civil_? [/QUOTE] You are a freakin’ **genius**! You’ve just hit on Bush’s exit plan: Call in Miss Manners! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![zamboniracer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9a140/32.png) [@zamboniracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zamboniracer)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2006, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/civil-war-this-civil-war-that-what-a-maroon/367731/65 "2006-08-09T18:20:45Z")
[QUOTE=Left Hand of Dorkness] I’m reading a book on Middle East political history now (I was reading it as I got my tires fixed yesterday; the mechanic looked at it, shook his head, and said, “That book’s way too thin”), and the author is now talking about the ethnic groups in Iran. Holy cow! If that place ever descends into Civil War, holy cow! Daniel [/QUOTE] And there we have the crux of the problem: our mechanics are apparently much wiser than our president, veep, secretary of defense and secretary of state. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2006, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/civil-war-this-civil-war-that-what-a-maroon/367731/66 "2006-08-10T14:54:10Z")
And they read more books. ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2006, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/civil-war-this-civil-war-that-what-a-maroon/367731/67 "2006-08-10T17:20:13Z")
And don’t treat newspapers like Kryptonite. ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2006, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/civil-war-this-civil-war-that-what-a-maroon/367731/68 "2006-08-10T17:51:11Z")
[QUOTE=Captain Lance Murdoch] The whole folly of Bush seeing this strictly sectarian vote as a vote against civil war reminds me a bit of the spin that was put on the Lebanese elections last year. Remember how conservatives were falling all over each other at the time to get on the airwaves to declare that the vote in Lebanon was A) a consequence of the invasion of Iraq and B) a “tipping point” in the middle-east, because now democracy had taken root and was running wild. I’m not hearing too much of that talk today. [/QUOTE] Yeah, more than a few posters on here, as well. “See? Look at all the good the invasion of Iraq is accomplishing!” I’m still trying to figure out how our Administration will manage to fuck up with Libya. -Joe ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2006, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/civil-war-this-civil-war-that-what-a-maroon/367731/69 "2006-08-11T00:31:55Z")
[QUOTE=Revtim] And don’t treat newspapers like Kryptonite. [/QUOTE] What, Dubya uses newspapers to incapacitate Superman so he can proceed with his nefarious plans? Come to think of it, I see Shrubya in the Otis role. Lemme fix that… What, Dubya uses newspapers to incapacitate Superman so Cheney can proceed with his nefarious plans? ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2006, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/civil-war-this-civil-war-that-what-a-maroon/367731/70 "2006-08-11T00:41:07Z")
[QUOTE=kaylasdad99] What, Dubya uses newspapers to incapacitate Superman so Cheney can proceed with his nefarious plans? [/QUOTE] No, when Cheney comes by to explain their next nefarious plan, an aide puts newspapers down for the president. Like a puppy, he tends to become excited. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/civil-war-this-civil-war-that-what-a-maroon/367731.md?page=3)