# Civilians pretending they're guarding recruiters **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 23, 2015, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/civilians-pretending-theyre-guarding-recruiters/725929 "2015-07-23T04:55:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 244
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2015, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/civilians-pretending-theyre-guarding-recruiters/725929/244 "2015-08-24T21:45:25Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Yet again, you lie. I did not “dis” anything other than your ridiculous patter. > … > > You show rather a limited (read: zero) understanding of what I–or anyone else, for that matter–did in the US Navy. > > I’ve lost count of how many times I’ve asked this–mainly because I never bothered to count that–but here goes again: Exactly what part of my ship–bow, stern, keel, superstructure–was not at sea with the rest of the ship? You see (actually, you don’t), I was not “behind the lines”. I was on a ship. > > My opinion is based on the law and regulations, not on politics. > > Then, since you’re the one who thinks military experience trumps law and regulation on this issue, you really should stop your prattling. > > Then you should know what the law says about military in the US performing “civilian law enforcement”, shouldn’t you? You should also be aware of the rationale behind background checks and discipline in a law enforcement organization as opposed to, say, having a “bunch of armed yokels” pretending to guard a very select few places with military recruiters present. > > And where did I say that about you, liar? > > Let’s see…I was approximately two years into my retirement after a full career in the US military, something I managed to do without violating the law and regulations regarding carrying unauthorized weapons. I was still subject to recall as, being approximately two years into my retirement means that I was in the Fleet Reserve. > > Yet again, you show that you really do not know what happens in the US Navy. > > Class: How many times is it now that twerp’s shown how stupid he is? > > Hey, DD, Let’s try this again: I have posted a number of questions in this thread. Perhaps you would care to answer, say, just the last three, quoted here for your convenience: > > On the positive side, **D\_Odds** is still [correct](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18546459&postcount=100). 1. You said there was no way my Dad would have been allowed to carry a sidearm as a E7. 2. Yeah, how dare I take what you said for granted? “6 1/2 years, United States Army, Active Duty, separated at the rank of Specialist (5), transferred to the drilling Reserve. 13 months drilling with the Army Reserve, separated from Reserves upon enlistment into the US Navy. 13 1/2 years, United States Navy, Active Duty, retired as Personnelman First Class.” 3. Do you have the **Combat Action Ribbon**? Serving _in_ a Combat Zone is different from being in Combat. 4. I think the Secretary of the Navy knows more about Military law and regulations than a Personnelman First Class. Now if you were the Judge Advocate General or one of their lawyers, then yes your opinion on Military law and regulations would be considered “expert”. I’d really like to see a E6 telling a Full Captain from the JAG’s office that they are a “pussy wimp coward incompetent” and that the Personnelman First Class opinion is worth more. it would be fun. Well,\* for me to watch\*, not for the soon to be E1. 5 My answer to your questions are: That a Full Captain or even Cmdr from the JAG’s office or higher ranking member will likely make that decision, not a GS 11 Fed _or_ a E6 Personnelman. (Now, if it was Moneylaundering, then I am a certified expert.) So, if we do get a Full Captain from the JAG’s office or higher ranking member in that Office come in and give their opinion, I will listen to it with all due deference. Until then, I’ll have to take the word of Lt Cmdr Timothy White’s CO (Likely a Captain, maybe a Cmdr) and the Full Captain or higher from the JAG’s office who \*actually decided \*that the Lt Cmdr should not be charged, along with the opinion of the former Secretary of the Navy. --- _[View the full topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/civilians-pretending-theyre-guarding-recruiters/725929)._