Hooray for missionary spam!
It looks like there’s going to be around 11 religions. I wonder if that matters. In Civ4 every game would be dominated by one religion, maybe two. It was usually Buddhism or Hinduism.
Or Jewish, although that was due to my efforts.
Did you really rally around the Mogen David?
That’s a switch.
I have never done that before. Will do next time.
Must buy Civ V.
Next time I am at Best Buy.
Or… maybe Steam.
all will worship thor!
Religion never was the problem, this expansion will only worthwhile if it fixes the fundamental flaws (AI and such).
I was disappointed that people were not so excited about Civ V’s improvement prospects, but this expansion seems like it could be a major step.
This may interest you from that link:
- Reworked Combat System. The expansion has a reworked combat system along with an AI that places more emphasis on balanced army composition. Among the changes to the combat system is the addition of melee naval units, which will force you to really rethink the way you execute your naval assaults.*
Remains to be seen if the AI will be tweaked enough to provide a good challenge for people…
I bought Civ V and the first few DLC when they came out but became disillusioned and have since moved on, but yeah, great reviews might bring me around.
Are they changing anything about happiness?
Well, if they aren’t, that’s one thing that mods can actually easily change. Of course, having to use mods to fix that sort of things feels stupid, but hey whatever works.
Hulfgars Mod is pretty good. I look forward to this release though. Seems they are reintroducing a lot of what we used to have (and they should not have dispensed with). And now they charge us for it.
Oh well. I’ll still play it every day.
Sorry to bump this thread, but now that Gods & Kings is out, what do you all think? Is Civ V “fixed”? Have enough significant issues been addressed that it is now a notably improved game over vanilla Civ V?
I’m very patient - if it still needs another expansion to fulfill its true potential, I can wait 
Gods & Kings is a significant improvement. They added religion and spies to the mix, the AI is improved (that is a relative thing though…better to be sure but some still find it lacking), City-States are much improved, nine (I think) new civs, more units and some streamlining of the interface. The spy part I think is a bit weak but the religion part seems a substantial addition (although I am still trying to get my head around all its implications in the game). It is a different game from the release version.
I think they are charging a bit much for the upgrade but I bought it and am happy. The game is lots more interesting now.
There are some bugs left and it is not perfect but all-in-all I consider it to be the game it should have been at release and lifts Civ5 into Civ4 territory. There are also lots of mods available. None I have found super good but with the new(ish) Steam Workshop it makes it easy to access those mods and further refine the game.
If you are a big fan of the Civ series I’d say plop the money down for Civ5 + Gods & Kings. If you are an occasional fan wait for a Steam sale (their summer sale is staring so perhaps you can get a deal on it soon although this release is so close to the sale I’d be surprised if you can get a bargain on it).
Civ 5 really, REALLY wants you to win via conquest.
- Defensive units cost as much as offensive units to create and upkeep.
- You need a huge military to prevent computers seeing your weakness and ganging up on you.
- Since you have a huge military eating up your resources (to prevent computers from ganging up on you) it would be foolish not to actually use it.
- You can’t afford both a huge military (to prevent computers from ganging up on you) and the settlers and workers and buildings it takes to make a booming economy. You must choose either a) a big military (to prevent computers from ganging up on you) or b) a booming economy.
-if you choose b) you will be ganged up on and killed.
Therefore, conquest is the only viable strategy post Prince level. If you’re really good, you can gimp along to another victory type, but it is not the optimum strategy in any situation. Sheesh, the more things change, the more they stay the same. Welcome to Civilization 1.5.
The game has much improved, but what hasn’t is the diplomacy. It’s so damn annoying.
Like the above poster said, you will go to war, often times for no reason. Really gets tedious.
“Oh look, it’s 74. Someone should be declaring war on me soon…there it is.” Then they’ll say, “Backstab is such a wrong word” or “It got tiring pretending to like you.”
And then later in the game, if you do have an amazing military/tech lead, they’ll declare war on you either way. “I know the odds are against me.”
I had this experience last night. Myself and two AI left; Washington, according to my advisor, has a microscopic army and at any rate is much smaller than myself and Catherine. Catherine declares war on Washington, and they share a continent, so Washington is toast.
I offer Washington a Defensive Pact (thereby agreeing to come in to his war on his side); he declines. Makes no sense whatsoever.