# Civilization VI Announced! Coming Oct 21st!!

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/civilization-vi-announced-coming-oct-21st/754552
**Category:** The Game Room
**Created:** [May 11, 2016, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/civilization-vi-announced-coming-oct-21st/754552 "2016-05-11T15:25:12Z")
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### Author: ![Kinthalis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kinthalis/32/16084_2.png) [@Kinthalis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kinthalis)
#### Post date: [May 11, 2016, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/civilization-vi-announced-coming-oct-21st/754552/1 "2016-05-11T15:25:12Z")

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Trailer:

[![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvBf6WBatk0)

Steam page with some info:

https://store.steampowered.com/widget/289070

Holy cow… I mean, I know it’s been over half a decade since Civ V came out, but given the fantastic expansions, and the fact that I hit up a game every other month or so, it feels like too soon?

One thing is for sure, after playing games like Stellaris and endless legend, they need to push out something that is a lot more than Civ V with better graphics.

What they are saying so far:

- Cities aren’t a one tile thing anymore, they spread aorund your territory.
- Research progress appears to be affected by gameplay? It’s not clear.
- Units are still one per tile, but support units can be embedded, giving it more flexibility/power?
- New multi-player options
- New ways to tweak civs.

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### Author: ![CoastalMaineiac](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e8c25b/32.png) [@CoastalMaineiac](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CoastalMaineiac)
#### Post date: [May 11, 2016, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/civilization-vi-announced-coming-oct-21st/754552/2 "2016-05-11T15:32:29Z")

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> [@Kinthalis](#):
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> \<snip\>  
> they need to push out something that is a lot more than Civ V with better graphics.

So basically, something like Civ IV with better graphics. 😃 Civ V’s combat is fun, and requires a lot more strategy than Civ IV’s stacks of doom, but the diplomacy feels dumbed down when I compare it with Civ IV. Also, I want the conquest victory to require capturing ALL cities again, not just the enemies’ capitals.

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### Author: ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)
#### Post date: [May 11, 2016, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/civilization-vi-announced-coming-oct-21st/754552/3 "2016-05-11T15:54:55Z")

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I just want to be able to burn capital cities to the ground.

Yeah, I’m really excited about this. Civ V is my most played game by far, something like, 1200 hours or so.

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### Author: ![Kinthalis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kinthalis/32/16084_2.png) [@Kinthalis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kinthalis)
#### Post date: [May 11, 2016, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/civilization-vi-announced-coming-oct-21st/754552/4 "2016-05-11T16:02:52Z")

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Some more info:

- A brand new graphics engine, very mod friendly.
- All systems from Civ V + expansions - trade, religion, espionage, archeology etc will be included in vanilla Civ VI.
- Cities will have districts which will pump up an aspect of the economy (religious, research, economic districts, etc).
- Wonders take up a hex.

Also looks like they are having that Steam Controller bundle thing again. You save 40% on the controller if you order it along with the game.

RPS preview: [https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2016/05/11/civilization-vi-details/](https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2016/05/11/civilization-vi-details/)

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### Author: ![Dave\_Hartwick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7feea3/32.png) [@Dave\_Hartwick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dave_Hartwick)
#### Post date: [May 11, 2016, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/civilization-vi-announced-coming-oct-21st/754552/5 "2016-05-11T16:06:09Z")

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Trailer was cheesy, screenshots remind me of Civ Rev. One of the Steam user tags is “Cartoony” which I thought was a joke but no, it fits. I’m not as excited as I was when I saw the announcement, unfortunately. This looks like another one to wait on while they fix issues, add content, and lower price.

Of course, good reviews from players will change my attitude radically.

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### Author: ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)
#### Post date: [May 11, 2016, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/civilization-vi-announced-coming-oct-21st/754552/6 "2016-05-11T16:06:57Z")

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That is an incredibly short turnaround time between a zero-gameplay announcement trailer and a release date.

My immediate thought was that they hadn’t bothered to use a new engine, but I found a RPS article that says otherwise, so that’s great news.

> **[Civilization VI Details! Release Date & More](https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/civilization-vi-details)**
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> Civilization VI will be released October 2016 and features changes to diplomacy, AI, combat, research and city-building. Read our feature for all the facts.

I’ll be watching with interest, but Firaxis has **not** shown themselves to be a day-one purchase developer. I still haven’t bought Beyond Earth yet.

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### Author: ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)
#### Post date: [May 11, 2016, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/civilization-vi-announced-coming-oct-21st/754552/7 "2016-05-11T16:10:59Z")

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> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#):
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> I’ll be watching with interest, but Firaxis has **not** shown themselves to be a day-one purchase developer. I still haven’t bought Beyond Earth yet.

Thanks for reminding me to cool my jets. BE was such a major disappointment. I regret buying it immensely. I’ll have to wait and see before I purchase this.

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### Author: ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)
#### Post date: [May 11, 2016, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/civilization-vi-announced-coming-oct-21st/754552/8 "2016-05-11T16:14:16Z")

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Yep. I agree that Civ V **eventually** became a helluva game, but it several years and two expansion packs that I paid full price for. I won’t be making that mistake with Firaxis ever again.

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### Author: ![Kinthalis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kinthalis/32/16084_2.png) [@Kinthalis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kinthalis)
#### Post date: [May 11, 2016, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/civilization-vi-announced-coming-oct-21st/754552/9 "2016-05-11T16:17:23Z")

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> [@Dave\_Hartwick](#):
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> Trailer was cheesy, screenshots remind me of Civ Rev. One of the Steam user tags is “Cartoony” which I thought was a joke but no, it fits. I’m not as excited as I was when I saw the announcement, unfortunately. This looks like another one to wait on while they fix issues, add content, and lower price.
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> Of course, good reviews from players will change my attitude radically.

I agree that the cartoony style isn’t grabbing me.

Saw this image elsewhere and I feel that would have been a better direction to go into:

[![](https://i.imgur.com/KpmbzT7.jpg) ](https://i.imgur.com/KpmbzT7.jpg)

Maybe they’re planning on a tablet port down the line? 😕

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### Author: ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)
#### Post date: [May 11, 2016, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/civilization-vi-announced-coming-oct-21st/754552/10 "2016-05-11T16:50:19Z")

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I’m definitely excited, but I’ll echo everyone else that it won’t be a day 1 purchase. I’ll see what the reactions are, and maybe get it in the winter sale.

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### Author: ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)
#### Post date: [May 11, 2016, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/civilization-vi-announced-coming-oct-21st/754552/11 "2016-05-11T18:40:53Z")

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Those bastards, I’ve just started to quit Civ V, using Stellaris and things like that as methadone and now they do this to me?  
I want to have a life, but it’s those bastards at Firaxis. They won’t let me. One quality game after another, each one more brilliant than the last. If they only stumbled once - just gave us thirty minutes to ourselves. But they won’t, they won’t let me live.

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### Author: ![That\_Don\_Guy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/that_don_guy/32/538_2.png) [@That\_Don\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_Don_Guy)
#### Post date: [May 11, 2016, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/civilization-vi-announced-coming-oct-21st/754552/12 "2016-05-11T19:15:16Z")

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> [@AlsoNamedBort](#):
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> I’m definitely excited, but I’ll echo everyone else that it won’t be a day 1 purchase. I’ll see what the reactions are, and maybe get it in the winter sale.

Same here. I made the mistake of buying into the hype with _Civiliization: Beyond Earth_. Besides, I’m still trying to land somebody on a moon and get him back without running out of fuel or burning up in the atmosphere in Kerbal Space Program…

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### Author: ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)
#### Post date: [May 11, 2016, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/civilization-vi-announced-coming-oct-21st/754552/13 "2016-05-11T19:21:47Z")

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Awesome. Awesome. Awesome. Awesome. Awesome. Awesome.

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### Author: ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)
#### Post date: [May 11, 2016, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/civilization-vi-announced-coming-oct-21st/754552/14 "2016-05-11T19:36:12Z")

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The whole “district” concept is making me drool. That is a fantastic addition to the game! Improvements don’t just exist in the abstract, but you have to place them in your city square, taking advantage of geometry?! INCLUDING wonders (like Pyramids have to be in the desert) _drool_

And science being tied to geography as well (as in you get a boost to researching seafaring if you are actually near the sea, or masonry if you have a quarry)? Awesome…

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### Author: ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)
#### Post date: [May 11, 2016, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/civilization-vi-announced-coming-oct-21st/754552/15 "2016-05-11T21:11:32Z")

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Can I buy it?  
Or am I stuck with the crummy option of renting it?

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### Author: ![Kinthalis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kinthalis/32/16084_2.png) [@Kinthalis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kinthalis)
#### Post date: [May 11, 2016, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/civilization-vi-announced-coming-oct-21st/754552/16 "2016-05-11T22:16:45Z")

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> [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](#):
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> Can I buy it?  
> Or am I stuck with the crummy option of renting it?

Don’t follow… It’s available for pre-order, but I’d wait until we have more info. Although apparently it’s being pre-ordered a lot as it’s high up on the top seller’s list.

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### Author: ![Palooka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/palooka/32/2902_2.png) [@Palooka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Palooka)
#### Post date: [May 11, 2016, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/civilization-vi-announced-coming-oct-21st/754552/17 "2016-05-11T22:21:11Z")

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I look forward to buying the dubiously-named GOTY edition for 75% off during the 2017 Summer Sale.

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### Author: ![Uosdwis\_R.Dewoh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Uosdwis\_R.Dewoh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uosdwis_R.Dewoh)
#### Post date: [May 11, 2016, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/civilization-vi-announced-coming-oct-21st/754552/18 "2016-05-11T22:53:20Z")

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> [@Kinthalis](#):
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> Trailer:  
> [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvBf6WBatk0&feature=youtu.be](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvBf6WBatk0&feature=youtu.be)

[Lol, they censored the nipples on the _Liberty Leading the People_.](https://youtu.be/qvBf6WBatk0?t=43s)

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### Author: ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)
#### Post date: [May 11, 2016, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/civilization-vi-announced-coming-oct-21st/754552/19 "2016-05-11T22:55:21Z")

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> [@Kinthalis](#):
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> Don’t follow… It’s available for pre-order, but I’d wait until we have more info. Although apparently it’s being pre-ordered a lot as it’s high up on the top seller’s list.

Pre-ordered?  
From where?

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### Author: ![Kinthalis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kinthalis/32/16084_2.png) [@Kinthalis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kinthalis)
#### Post date: [May 11, 2016, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/civilization-vi-announced-coming-oct-21st/754552/20 "2016-05-11T23:08:16Z")

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> [@Uosdwis\_R.Dewoh](#):
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> [Lol, they censored the nipples on the _Liberty Leading the People_.](https://youtu.be/qvBf6WBatk0?t=43s)

Lame.

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