# Claire Beauchamp, the culturally literate snob

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/claire-beauchamp-the-culturally-literate-snob/504905>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 31, 2009, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/claire-beauchamp-the-culturally-literate-snob/504905 "2009-07-31T19:28:38Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 10\
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**Author:** ![Other\_Dreams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Other\_Dreams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Other_Dreams)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2009, 10:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/claire-beauchamp-the-culturally-literate-snob/504905/161 "2009-08-03T10:37:24Z")

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I am an annoyingly curious individual.

With that moment of self-deprecation out of the way, I must wonder what “culturally literate” means to you\*. What does it do for you in the long run to know \<insert actor here\> and their \<subjective works here\>? What practical applications does it possess?

I suppose the evil in me, as always, want to remind all of you that when looking at this thread whilst keeping in mind that _yes, you will die_\* someday barring a scientific breakthrough\*\*\*\*, does it really strike you as important? If so, perhaps one should seriously reconsider their contribution to society as a whole. Cliffs can be friends.\*\*\*\*

😃 While my sarcasm has taken over, be assured that I do in fact want to know the answer to my “annoyingly curious” question.

~S.P.I.~

\*Where “you” in this case is a general you and should be looked at with awe and wonder.  
\*\*Yes, I do understand that when looking at almost anything in relation to your impending demise, it is hard to keep a smile on your face. Welcome to my everyday.  
\*\*\*With “breakthrough” being subjective as well, sometimes.  
\*\*\*\*These asterisks are here merely to annoy you further. As mentioned above I am quite evil.

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**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2009, 11:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/claire-beauchamp-the-culturally-literate-snob/504905/162 "2009-08-03T11:39:33Z")

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Dammit, it’s _The Bridge **on** the River Kwai_

“_ **on** _” not “_ **over** _”!

Philistines!

_harumph_

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**Author:** ![Freddy\_the\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a587f6/32.png) [@Freddy\_the\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freddy_the_Pig)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2009, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/claire-beauchamp-the-culturally-literate-snob/504905/163 "2009-08-03T13:51:59Z")

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> [@spoke-](#):
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> Dammit, it’s _The Bridge **on** the River Kwai_.

And it’s a very sweaty movie. I always thought, in that Cheers discussion of the sweatiest movie ever made, that _River Kwai_ deserved at least an honorable mention.

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**Author:** ![BrotherCadfael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@BrotherCadfael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrotherCadfael)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2009, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/claire-beauchamp-the-culturally-literate-snob/504905/164 "2009-08-03T16:47:12Z")

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> [@Freddy\_the\_Pig](#):
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> And it’s a very sweaty movie. I always thought, in that Cheers discussion of the sweatiest movie ever made, that _River Kwai_ deserved at least an honorable mention.

Buckets!

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**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2009, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/claire-beauchamp-the-culturally-literate-snob/504905/165 "2009-08-03T17:22:57Z")

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> [@spoke-](#):
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> Dammit, it’s _The Bridge **on** the River Kwai_
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> “_ **on** _” not “_ **over** _”!
> 
> Philistines!
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> _harumph_

Yeah, where in the world did they get [that idea?!?!?](http://www.amazon.com/Bridge-Over-River-Kwai-Novel/dp/0891419136/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1249320123&sr=8-3)

😛

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2009, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/claire-beauchamp-the-culturally-literate-snob/504905/166 "2009-08-03T19:01:51Z")

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+5 Literary Nitpick _always_ triumphs over Film Title Nitpick of The Stone Giant.

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**Author:** ![Darryl\_Lict](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7cd45c/32.png) [@Darryl\_Lict](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darryl_Lict)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2009, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/claire-beauchamp-the-culturally-literate-snob/504905/167 "2009-08-03T23:13:37Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> Yep. For raw numbers, that is. Wooden takes down everybody in win percentage, number of National Championships, number of undefeated seasons, and all-around class. Something Knight can’t even spell, much less possess.

Umm, I’m a huge UCLA fan, and because of that, I was pretty sure that Wooden was not the leader in percentage. He was head coach from something like 1947, so he did not always have Lew Alcindor lead 30-0 teams.

For major college basketball coaches we have:

# 1. Clair Bee - (412-87;-.826)

# 2. Adolph Rupp - Kentucky - (876-190;-.822)

# 3. John Wooden- UCLA - (664-162;-.804)

Now, I’ve never heard of Clair Bee nor Long Island University, but he did win the NIT championship twice, back when I believe the NIT championship was a much more prestigious tournament (The NCAA’s started in 1939, and Clair Bee won the NIT in 1939 and 1941).

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**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/claire-beauchamp-the-culturally-literate-snob/504905/168 "2009-08-04T02:03:50Z")

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> [@spoke-](#):
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> Dammit, it’s _The Bridge **on** the River Kwai_
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> “_ **on** _” not “_ **over** _”!
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> Philistines!
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> _harumph_

I’m not a Philistine. I was born right here in America!!!111!!!

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/claire-beauchamp-the-culturally-literate-snob/504905/169 "2009-08-04T03:50:44Z")

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> [@Lust4Life](#):
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> Just want to say that I think that Sir Alec Guiness was not only a superb actor but was indeed a legend.
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> Also I’ve heard of Charlie Chaplin,Buster Keaton,Bill Hayley,and for that matter **Beethoven** and Handel and I’m not that old.

Beethoven would be just an obscure Saint Bernard had he not starred in that movie with Charles Grodin.

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**Author:** ![tagos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@tagos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tagos)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/claire-beauchamp-the-culturally-literate-snob/504905/170 "2009-08-04T14:34:41Z")

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> [@villa](#):
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> The Bridge On the River Kwai as an obscure film? Come on. It is an extrememly famous movie, moreover a phenominal movie, and Guiness’ performance in it is stellar. The guy was a superlative actor throughout his career.
> 
> Not having watched movies such as The Bridge On the River Kwai doesn’t make someone a philistine. Avoiding them, on the other hand, comes much closer.

This. Do I have to make a choice between illiteracies?

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