# Clarification Inside:  Clearing the air and revealing PMs

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clarification-inside-clearing-the-air-and-revealing-pms/510452>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 17, 2009, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clarification-inside-clearing-the-air-and-revealing-pms/510452 "2009-09-17T15:14:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2009, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clarification-inside-clearing-the-air-and-revealing-pms/510452/41 "2009-09-17T22:22:39Z")

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> [@Sigmagirl](#):
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> Sorry, this is supposed to be followed by “Hang by your thumbs.”
> 
> A wooden nickel for spotting the reference.

Bob and Ray, the Two and Only.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2009, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clarification-inside-clearing-the-air-and-revealing-pms/510452/42 "2009-09-17T22:35:47Z")

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> [@Bosstone](#):
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> This meme is probably going to run its course within a month, but right now it’s still freaking hilarious.

Wait till he does it at Patrick Sawyze’s funeral, praising Michael Jackson’s service.

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**Author:** ![Sigmagirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c89c15/32.png) [@Sigmagirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sigmagirl)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clarification-inside-clearing-the-air-and-revealing-pms/510452/43 "2009-09-18T00:15:55Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> Bob and Ray, the Two and Only.

Win!

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**Author:** ![Patty\_O\_Furniture](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/96bed5/32.png) [@Patty\_O\_Furniture](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Patty_O_Furniture)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clarification-inside-clearing-the-air-and-revealing-pms/510452/44 "2009-09-18T00:26:50Z")

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> [@](#):
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> 1. I post the stupid joke list to MPSIMS.  
> \<snip\>
> 2. I then see that twickster edited my original posting in the thread citing plagiarism and the thread was locked.

What the heck is a joke list? We can’t post jokes to M.P. Sims unless they’re all original material now? I need clarification.

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**Author:** ![Michael\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Michael\_Ellis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Ellis)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clarification-inside-clearing-the-air-and-revealing-pms/510452/45 "2009-09-18T00:28:29Z")

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You have to publicly announce in ten separate places that you found said joke list on the internet or Oakminster will report you for plagiarism. Just like he/she used to tell on kids in grade school for telling dirty jokes during lunch.

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clarification-inside-clearing-the-air-and-revealing-pms/510452/46 "2009-09-18T00:51:38Z")

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> [@Michael\_Ellis](#):
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> You have to publicly announce in ten separate places that you found said joke list on the internet or Oakminster will report you for plagiarism.

Let’s recap, shall we?

Dudley broke a long standing rule, got called on it, cursed me out, cursed out a mod, claims he did not turn off his PMs out of cowardice, and posted his tearful farewell.

I reported his post and called him on his plagiarism.

Somehow I’m the bad guy?

You aren’t even bright enough to qualify for idiot.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clarification-inside-clearing-the-air-and-revealing-pms/510452/47 "2009-09-18T01:07:12Z")

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> [@tdn](#):
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> Who cares?

tl;dr\*

\*please note, the abbreviation “tl;dr” is not original with me. I saw it somewhere. It is not my original thought.

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**Author:** ![Gary\_Robson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gary_robson/32/3448_2.png) [@Gary\_Robson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Robson)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clarification-inside-clearing-the-air-and-revealing-pms/510452/48 "2009-09-18T01:08:08Z")

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> [@Patty\_O\_Furniture](#):
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> What the heck is a joke list? We can’t post jokes to M.P. Sims unless they’re all original material now? I need clarification.

If you wish to say, “The best joke I ever heard is…,” then go for it. No problem.

If you copy and paste a lengthy list of jokes from someone else’s Web site (and that’s the sole content of your OP), that’s a problem.

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**Author:** ![Michael\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Michael\_Ellis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Ellis)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clarification-inside-clearing-the-air-and-revealing-pms/510452/49 "2009-09-18T01:19:20Z")

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> [@Oakminster](#):
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> Let’s recap, shall we?
> 
> Dudley broke a long standing rule, got called on it, cursed me out, cursed out a mod, claims he did not turn off his PMs out of cowardice, and posted his tearful farewell.
> 
> I reported his post and called him on his plagiarism.
> 
> Somehow I’m the bad guy?
> 
> You aren’t even bright enough to qualify for idiot.

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah. CRY SOME MORE

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**Author:** ![Patty\_O\_Furniture](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/96bed5/32.png) [@Patty\_O\_Furniture](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Patty_O_Furniture)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clarification-inside-clearing-the-air-and-revealing-pms/510452/50 "2009-09-18T01:31:26Z")

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Rules for appropriating material:

The first time I will quote the source by saying: “As my good friend always says…”

The second time I will say: “As I said once before…”

The third time I will say: “Like I always say…”

Sorry, but after that, it’s mine.

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**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clarification-inside-clearing-the-air-and-revealing-pms/510452/51 "2009-09-18T01:34:58Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> Wait till he does it at Patrick Sawyze’s funeral, praising Michael Jackson’s service.

[He moves quicker than you think.](http://www.photodump.com/2009/09/14/patrick-swayze-vs-kanye-west/)

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clarification-inside-clearing-the-air-and-revealing-pms/510452/52 "2009-09-18T02:18:07Z")

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> [@Michael\_Ellis](#):
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> Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah. CRY SOME MORE

Now you’re just making shit up. And apparently trolling me for some reason. Whatever floats your boat. I’m still laughing at you.

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**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clarification-inside-clearing-the-air-and-revealing-pms/510452/53 "2009-09-18T03:50:19Z")

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The first rule of joke club is that you do NOT talk about joke club  
The second rule of joke club is that comedy is repetition  
There is no third rule of joke club.

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**Author:** ![ToeJam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@ToeJam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ToeJam)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clarification-inside-clearing-the-air-and-revealing-pms/510452/54 "2009-09-18T05:30:42Z")

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> [@Michael\_Ellis](#):
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> I object to idiot. And I wouldn’t kiss your ass if it was shitting platinum ingots.

😕  
Even if it WERE shitting platinum ingots, why would you ever kiss such an ass?  
Why not just collect the ingots, go home, clean them off and sell them?

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clarification-inside-clearing-the-air-and-revealing-pms/510452/55 "2009-09-18T05:47:04Z")

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> [@Ro0sh](#):
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> 😕  
> Even if it WERE shitting platinum ingots, why would you ever kiss such an ass?  
> Why not just collect the ingots, go home, clean them off and sell them?

Told you he was an idiot.

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**Author:** ![The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tao_s_Revenge)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clarification-inside-clearing-the-air-and-revealing-pms/510452/56 "2009-09-18T05:58:21Z")

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> [@Ro0sh](#):
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> 😕  
> Even if it WERE shitting platinum ingots, why would you ever kiss such an ass?  
> Why not just collect the ingots, go home, clean them off and sell them?

You don’t even have to clean them off. You’ve got platinum ingots! Hire people to do the cleaning.

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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 10:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clarification-inside-clearing-the-air-and-revealing-pms/510452/57 "2009-09-18T10:32:58Z")

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Also, if one is shitting platinum ingots there would be no need to clean them since it is platinum and not shit. At no point did **Michael Ellis** indicate that they were shit covered platinum ingots.

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Awesome](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a698b9/32.png) [@Captain\_Awesome](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Awesome)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 11:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clarification-inside-clearing-the-air-and-revealing-pms/510452/58 "2009-09-18T11:08:12Z")

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> [@Oakminster](#):
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> Let’s recap, shall we?
> 
> Dudley broke a long standing rule, got called on it, cursed me out, cursed out a mod, claims he did not turn off his PMs out of cowardice, and posted his tearful farewell.
> 
> I reported his post and called him on his plagiarism.
> 
> Somehow I’m the bad guy?
> 
> You aren’t even bright enough to qualify for idiot.

Let’s try the recap one more time.

**DudleyGarrett** broke _your_ misunderstanding of plagiarism, you threw hissy fit, he justifiably responded in kind. However, he then made the mistake of cursing a mod, though the mod initially misapplied the rule. The situation would not have arisen without your mistake. **DudleyGarrett** decides to leave, and whilst this is arguably an overreaction, I can understand his doing so.

So yes, you are the bad guy, or at least you fail to understand joke telling, or plagiarism, or you’re simply an idiot; one of the above.

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**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clarification-inside-clearing-the-air-and-revealing-pms/510452/59 "2009-09-18T14:55:34Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> Ladies and gentlemen, **Oakminster** , the Walter Sobchak of the SDMB.

I have entered a world of pain just reading this thread. 😛

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2009, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clarification-inside-clearing-the-air-and-revealing-pms/510452/60 "2009-09-18T15:09:45Z")

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I’m pretty sure \*\*Oakminster \*\*has posted on Shabbas, so I challenge that designation anyway.

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