# Clarification of rule against hate speech **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [May 18, 2022, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clarification-of-rule-against-hate-speech/964634 "2022-05-18T19:43:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 35
**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2022, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clarification-of-rule-against-hate-speech/964634/35 "2022-05-18T23:14:28Z")
If I give you an example, will you provide some clarity? I offer my part in this exchange from the thread, “Columbus Day v Indigenous People’s Day v Leif Erikson Day”, > [@Columbus Day v Indigenous People's Day v Leif Erikson Day](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/columbus-day-v-indigenous-peoples-day-v-leif-erikson-day/952323/86): > > I think identifying with Columbus and the Europeans who followed in his mold - the good and the bad - is a core part of the is a core part of the national identity. > [@Columbus Day v Indigenous People's Day v Leif Erikson Day](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/columbus-day-v-indigenous-peoples-day-v-leif-erikson-day/952323/88): > > So you’re saying the core part of the national identity is… white identity? And you’re afraid of losing it? > [@Columbus Day v Indigenous People's Day v Leif Erikson Day](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/columbus-day-v-indigenous-peoples-day-v-leif-erikson-day/952323/90): > > Insofar as identifying with the aforementioned people is ‘white identity’, yes. > [@Columbus Day v Indigenous People's Day v Leif Erikson Day](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/columbus-day-v-indigenous-peoples-day-v-leif-erikson-day/952323/94): > > So in an America where 40% of its people aren’t white, you are afraid that white identity will lose its place of supremacy? > [@Columbus Day v Indigenous People's Day v Leif Erikson Day](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/columbus-day-v-indigenous-peoples-day-v-leif-erikson-day/952323/97): > > I’m specifically talking about people looking at the history of the U.S. and saying, “we aren’t those colonists that did horrible things to the Native Americans, _that wasn’t us_ ”. I wouldn’t describe that as _white identity holding a place of supremacy_ , but if that is what you would call it, then yes, I’ll own it. > [@Columbus Day v Indigenous People's Day v Leif Erikson Day](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/columbus-day-v-indigenous-peoples-day-v-leif-erikson-day/952323/106): > > I didn’t twist those words out of you. Those are your words. I asked questions that might encourage you to connect the dots of what you’re saying, but you kept doubling down. I’ll be perfectly clear, in what you wrote above, you made the white supremacist case for keeping Columbus day. Also > [@Columbus Day v Indigenous People's Day v Leif Erikson Day](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/columbus-day-v-indigenous-peoples-day-v-leif-erikson-day/952323/137): > > My conception of nationalism is, in fact, monocultural… and my concept of national history is predominantly “white” on account of the fact that most Americans were (and are) “white”, and that the origin of this country comes from the English tradition. I do not yet see these as _problems to be fixed_ ; they seem appropriate to me. and > [@Columbus Day v Indigenous People's Day v Leif Erikson Day](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/columbus-day-v-indigenous-peoples-day-v-leif-erikson-day/952323/144): > > You really need to step back and try to see how you sound here. It’s not good. > [@Columbus Day v Indigenous People's Day v Leif Erikson Day](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/columbus-day-v-indigenous-peoples-day-v-leif-erikson-day/952323/146): > > I fear no amount of mere _introspection_ will change my mind on the subject, (at least not without first seeing a different perspective), given that I spent a week doing so for this topic already. I don’t believe in any theory of inherent racial superiority, nor do I support personal or cultural genocide, nor am I somehow concerned about a future where America is predominantly non-white; these are in my opinion the detestable elements of white supremacism. I was Pitted and am relatively confident the consensus of the board is that my posts in that topic are racist, although I would strenuously disagree. ~Max --- _[View the full topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clarification-of-rule-against-hate-speech/964634)._