# Clarification re: junior modding **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 10, 2008, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clarification-re-junior-modding/463002 "2008-09-10T21:42:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2008, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clarification-re-junior-modding/463002/1 "2008-09-10T21:42:34Z")
Posted in the Otto is banned thread but I fear has been lost in the issues there. **QED** has just been [suspended for a week](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=482609) for “junior modding” which, according to **TUba** they’ve repeatedly asked him not to do. Given the lightening fast ban on **Otto** for being mildly snarky right after **Ed** said stop whining now, I cautiously ask "what do TPTB consider ‘junior modding’ " There were no examples given in the thread. I have ideas about what it is, but, since I’m not privvy to the discussions, and don’t have threads w/warnings to look at, I’m not certain. If I see a thread that’s a duplicate - is posting a link to the other thread “junior modding” Is pointing out that junior modding can get you suspended “junior modding”? Is linking to rules “junior modding” ? what if the poster asked the question? Is it “junior modding” to point out that I thought he deserved suspension for being a jerk? And, given the current climate, please note that I am **not complaining**. ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2008, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clarification-re-junior-modding/463002/2 "2008-09-10T23:52:01Z")
Like anything else done by humans, there’s some variation. I was once given a warning about personal insults for mentioning the “don’t be a jerk” rule. IMO, with all that’s going on right now, erring on the side of caution might be a good strategy. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clarification-re-junior-modding/463002/3 "2008-09-11T01:23:45Z")
The junior modding restrictions make me wonder, too. Where is the line between posters who have been active participants here for years and years giving newbs advice, and junior modding? Why _shouldn’t_ us old farts give the newbies advice? Why should they have to learn everything the hard way? Why shouldn’t we give them an occasional heads-up on the ins and outs and nuances of this community? ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clarification-re-junior-modding/463002/4 "2008-09-11T01:24:55Z")
Shouldn’t this thread be in ATMB? [what?] ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clarification-re-junior-modding/463002/5 "2008-09-11T01:26:36Z")
Also, as much as I dislike **Q.E.D.** , I cannot find the final post where he was suspended. What gives? ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clarification-re-junior-modding/463002/6 "2008-09-11T01:30:51Z")
> [@featherlou](#): > > The junior modding restrictions make me wonder, too. Where is the line between posters who have been active participants here for years and years giving newbs advice, and junior modding? Why _shouldn’t_ us old farts give the newbies advice? Why should they have to learn everything the hard way? Why shouldn’t we give them an occasional heads-up on the ins and outs and nuances of this community? I too would like to see anactual example of something that’s consider to be over the line. I always assumed the junior modding meant a expressing too high degree of certainty over your opinion of what the rules mean. Or speaking as if your personal opinion is the accepted standard for us all. OTOH, if that’s the case, there’s a shitload of junior modding that people haven’t been called out on. ---
**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clarification-re-junior-modding/463002/7 "2008-09-11T01:39:53Z")
ok, there’s now, what six long term posters (mostly afaik, not ‘problem posters’) all saying (essentially) “what the fuck (with all due respect) can we post w/o getting warned/banned?” any answer?? ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clarification-re-junior-modding/463002/8 "2008-09-11T01:44:49Z")
If we tell you what Junior Modding is, we will be Junior Modding. Q.E.D. Ergo, don’t expect an answer from any of us. [sub]Did you get it? Q.E.D.? In a Junior Modding thread? Sometimes I crack myself up…[/sub] ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clarification-re-junior-modding/463002/9 "2008-09-11T01:52:59Z")
Wouldn’t that be junior modding of junior modding? ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clarification-re-junior-modding/463002/10 "2008-09-11T02:09:50Z")
The first rule of Junior Modding is, don’t talk about Junior Modding? ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clarification-re-junior-modding/463002/11 "2008-09-11T02:16:42Z")
> [@featherlou](#): > > The first rule of Junior Modding is, don’t talk about Junior Modding? No , that’s the first rule of the Junior Modding **Club**. Not all Junior Mods have joined the club. It’s an open shop. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clarification-re-junior-modding/463002/12 "2008-09-11T02:18:28Z")
With everything else going on tonight, I thought I would use the Report this post function to flag down a mod. [QUOTE=me] This thread could really use a senior mod to respond. It is a good question. [/QUOTE] ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clarification-re-junior-modding/463002/13 "2008-09-11T02:23:24Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > No , that’s the first rule of the Junior Modding **Club**. Not all Junior Mods have joined the club. It’s an open shop. Um, I’d like to apologize for my apparent certainty in answering this post. It was in reality a WAG. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clarification-re-junior-modding/463002/14 "2008-09-11T02:26:31Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > No , that’s the first rule of the Junior Modding **Club**. Not all Junior Mods have joined the club. It’s an open shop. So, is it like you don’t apply to join the club, you just know if you’re in it or not? ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clarification-re-junior-modding/463002/15 "2008-09-11T02:32:01Z")
> [@featherlou](#): > > So, is it like you don’t apply to join the club, you just know if you’re in it or not? Well, all members are Junior Mods, but not all Junior Mods are members. ---
**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clarification-re-junior-modding/463002/16 "2008-09-11T17:09:10Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > Shouldn’t this thread be in ATMB? > > [what?] Thanks for the LOL, there Sampiro. You can bet your sweet ass that I’m not posting anything outside the Pit for the next month lest it be taken as something in violation of the rules. I don’t care if I ask you what time it is. The question goes in the Pit. But then I run the risk of getting warned for posting in the wrong forum, so I will start off all of my threads with “Fuck you, worthless cocksuckers, but not in a homosexual way, bastards!” and then proceed with my question or debate. I should be fine then, right? Right? ---
**Author:** ![bbs2k](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e495f1/32.png) [@bbs2k](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bbs2k)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clarification-re-junior-modding/463002/17 "2008-09-11T18:00:24Z")
> [@jtgain](#): > > I should be fine then, right? Right? **Your posting privileges are under discussion**. [/fake jr. modding] ---
**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clarification-re-junior-modding/463002/18 "2008-09-11T18:04:21Z")
I thought “junior modding” might be a case where a poster assumes a tone of authority that hasn’t been granted to them. For example, I cannot tell **John Mace** : “You are making a personal attack on **Otto**. Stop now, or I’ll have to report you.” Even merely posting the fact that you are reporting a post may be considered junior modding and poor manners. (It sure derails threads…) ---
**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clarification-re-junior-modding/463002/19 "2008-09-11T18:08:42Z")
> [@mlees](#): > > I thought “junior modding” might be a case where a poster assumes a tone of authority that hasn’t been granted to them. > > For example, I cannot tell **John Mace** : “You are making a personal attack on **Otto**. Stop now, or I’ll have to report you.” > > Even merely posting the fact that you are reporting a post may be considered junior modding and poor manners. (It sure derails threads…) But I don’t recall **QED** ever doing either of those things. That’s why I want clarification from the mods. what posts were considered ‘too junior modding’? are the examples I gave junior modding? Many of the things on that list are things that many oldy-timersy do frequently (quoting rules, posting links to duplicate threads etc) ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2008, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clarification-re-junior-modding/463002/20 "2008-09-11T18:26:30Z")
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