# Clarification re: junior modding **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 10, 2008, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clarification-re-junior-modding/463002 "2008-09-10T21:42:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2008, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clarification-re-junior-modding/463002/41 "2008-09-12T13:27:19Z")
I think it has a lot to do with the way a comment is framed. as much as the content, for example, if some newb _pulled up a lawn chair_ in the pit and you said: “Hey, just a friendly piece of advice, TPTB don’t like it when we do that” - I reckon it would probably not be seen as junior modding, whereas if you’d said: “_pulling up a lawn chair_ is not permitted in the pit. Don’t do that” - I think it probably would. ---
**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2008, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clarification-re-junior-modding/463002/42 "2008-09-12T13:46:07Z")
I’d post “[/pulls up a lawn chair]” but who knows if that would result in a banning these days? ---
**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2008, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clarification-re-junior-modding/463002/43 "2008-09-12T13:48:48Z")
My point being, who knows what goes on now that \*\*Ed \*\*is enforcing all sorts of New Rules That Will Be Coming Down LIke a Shithammer But Which We Can’t Articulate Yet. (You’ll Know Them When We Ban You.) ---
**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2008, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clarification-re-junior-modding/463002/44 "2008-09-12T16:09:09Z")
> [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](#): > > My point being, who knows what goes on now that \*\*Ed \*\*is enforcing all sorts of New Rules That Will Be Coming Down LIke a Shithammer But Which We Can’t Articulate Yet. (You’ll Know Them When We Ban You.) Or when the new rules are replaced by the new, NEW rules (all unwritten and previously unknown) because Ed’s dog dies or something and he wants to take it out here.. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2008, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clarification-re-junior-modding/463002/45 "2008-09-12T16:33:21Z")
That’s not entirely fair; there were a lot of extenuating circumstances in **Ed’s** recent precipitous actions, and I don’t think the posters involved in it (the complainers and the people who just had to cross the line) were lily-white and innocent, either. ---
**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2008, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clarification-re-junior-modding/463002/46 "2008-09-12T16:50:37Z")
> [@featherlou](#): > > That’s not entirely fair; there were a lot of extenuating circumstances in **Ed’s** recent precipitous actions, and I don’t think the posters involved in it (the complainers and the people who just had to cross the line) were lily-white and innocent, either. But the rules up to that point clearly stated that you could use the “About this Message Board” topic to complain about the board, the mods, or the administration. In fact, it still reads that way. Those were Ed’s rules, posters availed themselves of that option, and Ed comes on here and delivers the Sermon From On High telling us children that he has had enough and that if we keep it up, we won’t get our milk and cookies for snack time. Then Otto asks a very reasonable question and gets banned for it. Several hours later when Ed’s testosterone level drops back to normal, he commutes Otto’s banning to a weekend suspension. What he owed Otto, and every poster here, is an apology. What did Otto do to deserve a weekend suspension? ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2008, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clarification-re-junior-modding/463002/47 "2008-09-12T16:51:48Z")
> [@featherlou](#): > > That’s not entirely fair; there were a lot of extenuating circumstances in **Ed’s** recent precipitous actions, and I don’t think the posters involved in it (the complainers and the people who just had to cross the line) were lily-white and innocent, either. I figure I’m paying good money to be a smart ass. ---
**Author:** ![cards](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecd19e/32.png) [@cards](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cards)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2008, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clarification-re-junior-modding/463002/48 "2008-09-12T18:11:11Z")
> [@C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](#): > > Like so many things, we know it when we see it… and we don’t want to try to draft up a 400-page document trying to describe all details. Basically, “junior modding” is coming across as a moderator: make statements, accusations, etc that only a moderator should be making. > > What’s the diff between that and simply long-term posters giving advice to newcomers? Again, you know it when you see it. Giving helpful advice or suggestions to newcomers is usually warm, welcoming and friendly; junior modding usually involves scolding, criticizing, or a holier-than-thou attitude. > > And if junior modding happens once in a while, we don’t usually care. Yeah, we may warn (in public or in private), but everyone slips up now and then. However, when we see regular, repeated behaviors – when we’ve issued several warnings over a fairly short time-frame – that’s a different situation. HEY, HEY, HEY, you’re not a moderator, you’re an _adminstrator_, so knock off the junior modding or I’ll tell **Giraffe**. ---
**Author:** ![Giles](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giles/32/60_2.png) [@Giles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giles)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2008, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clarification-re-junior-modding/463002/49 "2008-09-12T18:30:39Z")
> [@cards](#): > > HEY, HEY, HEY, you’re not a moderator, you’re an _adminstrator_, so knock off the junior modding or I’ll tell **Giraffe**. When it’s by an admin, it’s called “senior modding”. ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2008, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clarification-re-junior-modding/463002/50 "2008-09-12T18:41:29Z")
> [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](#): > > My point being, who knows what goes on now that \*\*Ed \*\*is enforcing all sorts of New Rules That Will Be Coming Down LIke a Shithammer But Which We Can’t Articulate Yet. (You’ll Know Them When We Ban You.) Just as long as we’re still at war with Eastasia [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clarification-re-junior-modding/463002.md?page=2)