# Class B Cigarettes **URL:** \ **Category:** Cecil's Columns/Staff Reports\ **Created:** [April 28, 2013, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/class-b-cigarettes/656959 "2013-04-28T23:01:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![eastcheap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8491ac/32.png) [@eastcheap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eastcheap)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2013, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/class-b-cigarettes/656959/1 "2013-04-28T23:01:32Z")
[Link](http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/1020/how-come-you-never-see-class-b-cigarettes) to article. One thing that Cecil failed to mention is that the sale of “loosies” was pretty much banned nationwide in the nineties. Since most large cigarettes were sold individually or, as best as I can recall, in packaging that ended up not being legally marketable (i.e. fewer than 20 per pack), it pretty much put an end to an already iffy product. I certainly recall that the only Class B brand sold by my local tobacconists (Nat Sherman or Sobranie, I don’t remember which) quickly disappeared when new regulations went into effect. ---
**Author:** ![ZenBeam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/3ab097/32.png) [@ZenBeam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZenBeam)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2013, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/class-b-cigarettes/656959/2 "2013-04-29T02:04:35Z")
From the article: > [@Cecil Adams](#): > > We thought: boy, this sounds like an extremely useful classification system. What other nonexistent cigarettes can we dream up categories for? Concrete cigarettes! **Electrical cigarettes!** Cigarettes with stainless steel linings! Once again, **Cecil** is ahead of his time. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2013, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/class-b-cigarettes/656959/3 "2013-04-29T02:15:29Z")
Cecil might also want to update his information. Cigaratello production may have shut down back around 1995 but apparently it revived at some point. They’re back on the [market](http://www.usa-cigarettes.com/nat-sherman-nonfilter-cigarettellos-cigarettes-p-448.html). ---
**Author:** ![pplepic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/898d66/32.png) [@pplepic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pplepic)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2013, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/class-b-cigarettes/656959/4 "2013-04-30T15:30:44Z")
Back in the stone age when I was a callow youth, the country abounded in tobacco stores that sold not only tobacco, but newspapers, magazines and that new idea, “Pocket Books” ($0.25), there were among the many many brands of cigarettes, some large long cigarettes that came like four or five to a package. I don’t remember the brand, but I don’t think it was Cigaretellos. PS, whole stores, like Dunhill’s, thrived on smoking paraphenalia. All gone up in smoke. ---
**Author:** ![GoatManDan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/3be4f8/32.png) [@GoatManDan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GoatManDan)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2013, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/class-b-cigarettes/656959/5 "2013-04-30T15:44:25Z")
I was surprised you didn’t call the guy out about the grade b meat he mentioned. There is no such thing as grade b beef. ---
**Author:** ![Canadjun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/76d3ee/32.png) [@Canadjun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Canadjun)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2013, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/class-b-cigarettes/656959/6 "2013-04-30T19:31:25Z")
> [@GoatManDan](#): > > I was surprised you didn’t call the guy out about the grade b meat he mentioned. There is no such thing as grade b beef. Depends what [country](http://www.canadabeef.ca/ca/en/beef_export/quality/quality_grade.aspx)you are in. ---
**Author:** ![pplepic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/898d66/32.png) [@pplepic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pplepic)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2013, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/class-b-cigarettes/656959/7 "2013-05-01T00:45:00Z")
This is slightly off subject, but the Class A and Class B naturally made me think of potatoes. If you’ve ever bought No. 1 potatoes at your local grocery, you sure don’t want to see No. 2 potatoes. In fact, my store doesn’t even have such a thing. You can’t get much worse than No. 1 potatoes in a bag. The bag is for convenience. Not yours; theirs. They don’t want you to see what No. 1 looks like until you get home. ---
**Author:** ![Cerealbox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7ab992/32.png) [@Cerealbox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cerealbox)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2013, 11:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/class-b-cigarettes/656959/8 "2013-05-01T11:56:18Z")
Clove cigarettes are illegal in the Us now. Not cause any supposed danger of them as Cecil suggests, but because it was ruled that good tasting black cigarettes from Indonesia are some sort of crypto-marketing campaign to kids. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2013, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/class-b-cigarettes/656959/9 "2013-05-01T17:59:19Z")
> [@Cerealbox](#): > > Clove cigarettes are illegal in the Us now. Not cause any supposed danger of them as Cecil suggests, but because it was ruled that good tasting black cigarettes from Indonesia are some sort of crypto-marketing campaign to kids. [People](http://www.clovecigarette.org/) seem to be breaking this law pretty openly. ---
**Author:** ![John\_W.Kennedy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_w.kennedy/32/1031_2.png) [@John\_W.Kennedy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_W.Kennedy)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2013, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/class-b-cigarettes/656959/10 "2013-05-01T19:47:18Z")
There is also Grade A Maple Syrup, though if you look hard enough you can find Grade B (darker than “Grade A Dark Amber”). Grade C is pretty much restricted to commercial use. Vermont has announced a new grading system in the hope of clearing things up a bit. ---
**Author:** ![Nunzio\_Tavulari](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Nunzio\_Tavulari](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nunzio_Tavulari)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2013, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/class-b-cigarettes/656959/11 "2013-05-01T23:28:27Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > [People](http://www.clovecigarette.org/) seem to be breaking this law pretty openly. That site is based in Indonesia. Presumably, Indonesian cigarrettes are legal there. It also carries the following warnings: > [@](#): > > The quantity of cigarettes that can be purchased at [clovecigarette.org](http://clovecigarette.org) is left to the discretion of customers who must be aware of the laws in force in their country and the sanctions they may incur if their intention is to resell cigarettes. It is the responsibility of the Buyer to ascertain and comply with the laws relating to the purchase and use of any tobacco goods. In order to determine the applicable limits on purchases or taxing responsibilities, if any, imposed by a particular state, the consumer may want to contact state authorities. > > Before Purchase order , please ensure that importing cigarettes by mailorder or internet is ALLOWED by Custom in your Country. Any confiscated item by custom office WILL NOT BE REFUNDED. As to your other point [QUOTE=Little Nemo] Cecil might also want to update his information. Cigaratello production may have shut down back around 1995 but apparently it revived at some point. They’re back on the market. [/quote] Cecil mentioned that they were still available in a smaller size. I saw no indication of size in that link