# Classic Rock Song with the lyrics "Now or Never"

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**Created:** [April 5, 2024, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/classic-rock-song-with-the-lyrics-now-or-never/999854 "2024-04-05T05:03:10Z")\
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I hear this rock song on classic Rock stations all the time but just never knew the actual title, the problem is if you Google Now Or Never you get a bunch of unrelated songs titled that and I think Now or Never is just part of the chorus not the title.

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“It’s now, or nehhhhverrr…”

Is that the one?

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Assuming you don’t mean the Elvis song, maybe “Gimme Stitches” by Foo Fighters? But…If Foo Fighters are Classic Rock, I feel really old.

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Bon Jovi - “It’s My Life”

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**Post date:** [April 5, 2024, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/classic-rock-song-with-the-lyrics-now-or-never/999854/5 "2024-04-05T05:33:12Z")

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Okay this was it thanks!

Different sounding in the YouTube video but the lyrics fit.

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**Post date:** [April 5, 2024, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/classic-rock-song-with-the-lyrics-now-or-never/999854/6 "2024-04-05T05:44:54Z")

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> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#):
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> But…If Foo Fighters are Classic Rock, I feel really old.

And the Bon Jovi song fhat it turns out is the answer is from 2000, which is worse yet. I can live with my local classic rock station playing Nirvana and Bush, but the 21st century is where I draw the line.

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**Post date:** [April 5, 2024, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/classic-rock-song-with-the-lyrics-now-or-never/999854/7 "2024-04-05T06:31:14Z")

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“Classic Rock” is a redundancy. By which I mean, it presumes the existence of _non_-classic rock, or modern rock, which is something I’ve seen little evidence of. I’m sure it exists, but its cultural impact is close to nil.

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> By which I mean, it presumes the existence of _non_-classic rock, or modern rock, which is something I’ve seen little evidence of.

Rock isn’t the dominant form of pop music these days, but young people are still making rock music. Look at Greta Van Fleet, for example, or Ghost, or Twenty-One Pilots, or Fozzy, or the Black Keys.

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**Post date:** [April 5, 2024, 8:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/classic-rock-song-with-the-lyrics-now-or-never/999854/9 "2024-04-05T08:37:27Z")

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I think it could be considered classic rock even from the earliest definition, because the earliest classic rock stations that I remember, from the late 80s, played 10 year old rock songs and older _and new songs by established artists in the genre_.

Many things only feel like they age 1 year for every actual 2 years they’ve been around and the definition of classic rock is no different. Since it’s been 35 years since I first heard classic rock promoted as such, songs from the mid 90s and earlier do feel like classic rock (adding 17 or so years to the late 70s). And thus, a Bon Jovi song in 2000 seems okay to call a classic rock song since they were a big name in what I now consider to be classic rock.

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If I were in charge of definitions, “classic rock” would start with the Beatles and end with hair metal. Anything more recent than “Cherry Pie” by Warrant feels out-of-place on a classic rock station to me.

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**Post date:** [April 5, 2024, 10:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/classic-rock-song-with-the-lyrics-now-or-never/999854/11 "2024-04-05T10:06:04Z")

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To me, it has always seemed that 10-year-old things inspired eye-rolls, while 20-year-old things inspired nostalgia.

In the 1960s, Hollywood made a ton of World War II movies.  
In the 1970s, _M.A.S.H._ and _Happy Days_ dominated the TV, and Sha Na Na had a show.  
When I was a teenager in the 1980s, Disco sucked, but hippies were cool again.  
In the 1990s, I realized that my favorite New Wave music was just Disco with bad haircuts, and the old Disco was not that bad.

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> If I were in charge of definitions, “classic rock” would start with the Beatles and end with hair metal. Anything more recent than “Cherry Pie” by Warrant feels out-of-place on a classic rock station to me.

If I were in charge, everything between 1955 and 1999 would be “Rock”, and everything since then would be “Contemporary Rock”.

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I think of music classification in a similar way as the taxonomic ranks in biology.

In that we have: Domain - Kingdom - Phylum - Class - Order - Family - Genus - Species.

So let’s see if we can map something similar out to rock:

Domain = Western Music  
Kingdom = Commercial Music  
Phylum = Popular Music  
Class = Stringed instruments  
Order = Rock  
Family = genre e.g. Alt-Rock  
Genus = sub genre e.g. Punk  
Species = band e.g. Sex Pistols

I think this roughly works, though it’s not perfect. I had to fudge a bit to split out the bits at the high ranks! But basically the point is that underneath rock are tons of genres and sub genres.

Alt-rock is a great example. You can say punk is a type of alt-rock. In the 90’s US bands such as Faith No More, Soundgarden, Pearl Jam and Nirvana, Red Hot Chilli Peppers could be clased as grunge (though I think that these bands sound too different from each other to be the same genre).

And in the UK bands such as Oasis, Blur, Suede, Stone Roses, Supergrass, The Bluetones could all be classed as indie or Britpop. Metal is another alt-rock.

All rock, but all also alt-rock. And all _at the same_ time either grunge, punk, metal or whatever.

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I don’t think it’s that simple - I think one song can fall into multiple genres, never mind one group. A song could be both pop _and_ punk, or rock and pop. A band can play both hip-hop and soul.

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> [@mbh](#):
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> To me, it has always seemed that 10-year-old things inspired eye-rolls, while 20-year-old things inspired nostalgia.

I’ve been fascinated by the recent resurgence of interest in the TV series **Suits** (2011-2019). Aside from the presence of a young Meghan Markle in the cast, there’s very little about the clothing, hairstyles, technology, plotlines, etc. to indicate that the first episodes were made 13 years ago and not last week.

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I don’t know if it’s classic or even rock, but Bryan Adams’ “Summer of 69” has this verse:

> Standin’ on your mama’s porch  
> You told me that you’d wait forever  
> Oh, and when you held my hand  
> I knew that it was _ **now or never** _  
> Those were the best days of my life  
> Oh, yeah  
> Back in the summer of '69, oh

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The first thing I thought of was Gary Puckett and the Union Gap - Lady Willpower  
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUHEHibJLZQ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUHEHibJLZQ)

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> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#):
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> But…If Foo Fighters are Classic Rock, I feel really old.

They play Foo Fighters all the time on the classic rock station in NY. I think it’s defined by them as anything older than today - 20 years.

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Simple. Classic Rock is anything older than MTV.

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> [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](#):
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> Alt-rock is a great example. You can say punk is a type of alt-rock.

Shouldn’t it be the other way around? Alternative emerged from New Wave, which spun off of punk.

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