# Classical Music: Recognizing a composer by sound.

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**Created:** [January 1, 2010, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/classical-music-recognizing-a-composer-by-sound/523263 "2010-01-01T04:58:20Z")\
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**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2010, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/classical-music-recognizing-a-composer-by-sound/523263/1 "2010-01-01T04:58:20Z")

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Specifically Aaron Copland to begin with. I just was watching the New York Philharmonic play a suite of music I’d never heard before, but it was unmistakably Copland. I fortunately tuned in to hear the whole piece, but not in time to hear what it was; it turned out to be Appalachian Spring\*.

What is it exactly that makes Copland so distinct?

My thoughts:

1. Liberal use of horns and timpani, much like other American composers.
2. Numerous staccato arpeggios or ostinatos (riffs).
3. Said arpeggios being echoed by successive sections.
4. Playing around with the upbeat and downbeat. That may not be the best way to put it, but I think this is a big one and can be expanded upon by more knowledgeable Dopers.

I’m also usually able to ID a Beethoven piece, and when I’m wrong it’s some other German or Austrian.

Who can you always recognize, even if you’ve never heard the specific piece?

\*: I have to apologize for never having actually _listened_ to Appalachian Spring before. I’m sure I’ve heard parts of it, it’s on a CD I have. “Celebration” from _Billy the Kid_ and “Hoe-Down” from _Rodeo_ come up on my favorite playlist all the time.

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**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2010, 7:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/classical-music-recognizing-a-composer-by-sound/523263/2 "2010-01-01T07:24:07Z")

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There are several composers whose work is so idiosyncratic I have no trouble IDing them:

Wagner  
Chopin  
Rachmaninoff  
Offenbach  
Gilbert & Sullivan  
Dvorak  
Puccini  
Prokofiev

Mozart/Haydn: If it sounds like the composer had fun composing it, it’s Mozart (though I’ve heard other people say exactly the opposite).

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**Author:** ![movingfinger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@movingfinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/movingfinger)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2010, 7:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/classical-music-recognizing-a-composer-by-sound/523263/3 "2010-01-01T07:25:53Z")

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Rossini. Anything by Rossini. His compositions all sound like variations on a single theme. In spite of or because of or regardless of the foregoing, I love Rossini.

Oh, and a 20th century Russian composer whose name slips my mind. His music always sounds like the Czar’s cavalry is about to go pogrom on my ass.

Ah! SHOSTAKOVICH!!

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**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2010, 7:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/classical-music-recognizing-a-composer-by-sound/523263/4 "2010-01-01T07:40:06Z")

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Wendy Carlos (known as Walter at the time) had a piece on her album “By Request” called Pompous Circumstances, where she reworked Elger’s chestnut in the style of a dozen other composers, from Bach to Scot Joplin.

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**Author:** ![Quasimodem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e274bd/32.png) [@Quasimodem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quasimodem)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2010, 7:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/classical-music-recognizing-a-composer-by-sound/523263/5 "2010-01-01T07:42:03Z")

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J/K! 🙂

I know he doesn’t like me, but I agree with **p45** on Chopin. I love his “light” attacks on the keys, and could I throw in one of my own?

Ferde Grofe’s (sorry, don’t know how to make the “ay” sound on his name), _Grand Canyon Suite_?

I’m a big fan of “tone poems”.

Especially Mussorgsky’s.

Nice thread,

Thanks

Q

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**Author:** ![KarlGauss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karlgauss/32/3713_2.png) [@KarlGauss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGauss)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2010, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/classical-music-recognizing-a-composer-by-sound/523263/6 "2010-01-01T14:23:50Z")

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[Philip Glass](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Glass). I don’t know if you consider him to be ‘classical’, but he is most definitely a composer.

Of course, the ability to recognize his works by their ‘sound’ comes only after years of intense scrutiny of his work 😃

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**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2010, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/classical-music-recognizing-a-composer-by-sound/523263/7 "2010-01-01T20:07:13Z")

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I’m usually on target with lots of composers, if I can’t ID the piece off-the-bat. Baroque has structural consistencies, composers like Haydn or Mozart have idiosyncratic traits that are fairly familiar given the breadth of their work, and instrumentation and style help distinguish, say, the French and the Russians for 20th Century pieces.

This is mostly symphonic, mind you. I’m not nearly as adept at chamber music (though a lot of the same rules apply).

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**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2010, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/classical-music-recognizing-a-composer-by-sound/523263/8 "2010-01-01T20:35:21Z")

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I can ID a lot of composers by sound. And my rule of thumb for distinguishing Mozart from his contemporaries is this: I contemplate for a moment if the piece has an ineffable, almost supernatural quality of “perfection.” It’s foolproof.

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**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2010, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/classical-music-recognizing-a-composer-by-sound/523263/9 "2010-01-01T22:30:36Z")

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> [@Quasimodem](#):
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> I know he doesn’t like me . . .

😕 😕 😕 😕 😕
