# Classical, Popular, and Movie Music Ruined by Other Associations **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** movies\ **Created:** [September 6, 2024, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/classical-popular-and-movie-music-ruined-by-other-associations/1006871 "2024-09-06T19:36:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![WildaBeast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wildabeast/32/6_2.png) [@WildaBeast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WildaBeast)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2024, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/classical-popular-and-movie-music-ruined-by-other-associations/1006871/81 "2024-09-08T22:01:56Z")
> [@RealityChuck](#): > > I can’t listen to Ludwig Van without getting physically sick… I know you were making a joke, but seriously, I can’t hear Beethoven’s Symphony No. 9 and not think of _A Clockwork Orange_. And thanks to another Kubrick film, Shostakovich’s Waltz No. 2 will forever in my brain be the song from _Eye’s Wide Shut_. ---
**Author:** ![zbuzz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e19b73/32.png) [@zbuzz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zbuzz)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2024, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/classical-popular-and-movie-music-ruined-by-other-associations/1006871/82 "2024-09-09T04:51:57Z")
Not ruined, but it’s impossible for me to hear Journey’s “Don’t Stop Believin’” without thinking of Meadow parallel parking, onion rings (Holsten’s, best in the state) and some guy in a Members Only jacket walking out of the john. ---
**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2024, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/classical-popular-and-movie-music-ruined-by-other-associations/1006871/83 "2024-09-09T11:21:21Z")
I can’t hear “Vesti la giubba” from Pagliacci without thinking of “invest in a tuba and somethin’ or other 'bout Cuba”. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/BrCxIb34Hs4/maxresdefault.jpg "Pal-Yat-Chee") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrCxIb34Hs4) ---
**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2024, 11:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/classical-popular-and-movie-music-ruined-by-other-associations/1006871/84 "2024-09-09T11:28:05Z")
Also, I can’t hear Marillion’s “Lavender Blue” without thinking of Angus Deayton in the TV show **Nighty Night**. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/q9Enosz7WCQ/hqdefault.jpg "Nighty Night episode 1 dance") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9Enosz7WCQ) ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/classical-popular-and-movie-music-ruined-by-other-associations/1006871/85 "2024-09-11T15:53:48Z")
A post was merged into an existing topic: [Keyhotea Cornfielded Posts](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/keyhotea-cornfielded-posts/1007125/16) ---
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2024, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/classical-popular-and-movie-music-ruined-by-other-associations/1006871/86 "2024-09-09T12:23:37Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > Ponchielli’s “Dance of the Hours” from _La Gioconda_ – Allan Sherman’s “Hello Muddah, Hello Faddah (A Letter from Camp”) I heard this LONG before I heard the opera. Sherman also did a number on Brahms’s “Hungarian Dance #5”: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/RYK-YCY47xs/maxresdefault.jpg "Allan Sherman: "Hungarian Goulash No. 5" (1963)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYK-YCY47xs) ---
**Author:** ![Chad\_Sudan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chad_sudan/32/4509_2.png) [@Chad\_Sudan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chad_Sudan)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2024, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/classical-popular-and-movie-music-ruined-by-other-associations/1006871/87 "2024-09-09T12:27:38Z")
Indeed, @hogarth! And here’s another pop song that Julia Davis has left her indelible mark on (from Sally4Ever): [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/UkyTTWIZkP0/hqdefault.jpg "Sally4Ever: FUNNY Scene") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkyTTWIZkP0) ---
**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2024, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/classical-popular-and-movie-music-ruined-by-other-associations/1006871/88 "2024-09-09T12:38:33Z")
And Grieg’s “Norwegian Dance No. 2”: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/aDdgknZgh-k/maxresdefault.jpg "I Cant Dance") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDdgknZgh-k) ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2024, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/classical-popular-and-movie-music-ruined-by-other-associations/1006871/89 "2024-09-09T12:40:17Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > I really like Ludwig Von Drake’s little education cartoons, why dont you like them? Oh. 🤪 Ludwig von Drake’s songs were pretty much written by the Sherman brothers. They’re cute, but not classics. – “Ludwig von Drake, that’s me!” and “The Spectrum Song” > [@](#): > > [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arZRYbtb20M](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arZRYbtb20M) > [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZ31\_i0os40](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZ31_i0os40) > [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-jBqksqBIQ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-jBqksqBIQ) (There are other von Drake songs, sung by the immortal Paul Frees, but I haven’t heard 'em.) ---
**Author:** ![MrAtoz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@MrAtoz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrAtoz)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2024, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/classical-popular-and-movie-music-ruined-by-other-associations/1006871/90 "2024-09-09T13:57:30Z")
> [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > Then there are the crap pop songs made out of romantic piano concertos – “Tonight We Love” from Tchaikovsky’s 1st, and “Full Moon and Empty Arms” (blech) from Rachmaninoff’s 2nd. I’m sure you recognize this lovely melody as “Stranger in Paradise.” But did you know that the original theme is from the Polovetsian Dance No. 2 by Borodin? Those of us of a certain age will recognize that question. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2024, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/classical-popular-and-movie-music-ruined-by-other-associations/1006871/91 "2024-09-09T14:04:27Z")
> [@MrAtoz](#): > > Those of us of a certain age will recognize that question. And it was the second Mr. French who said them. > **[John Williams (actor)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Williams_(actor))** > > Hugh Ernest Leo Williams (15 April 1903 – 5 May 1983)\[a\], known professionally as John Williams, was an English stage, film and television actor. He is remembered for his role as Chief Inspector Hubbard in Alfred Hitchcock's Dial M for Murder, as the chauffeur in Billy Wilder's Sabrina (both 1954), as Mr. Brogan-Moore in Witness for the Prosecution (1957) and as the second "Mr. French" on TV's Family Affair in its first season (1967). > Born in Chalfont St Giles in Buckinghamshire, England, in ... ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2024, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/classical-popular-and-movie-music-ruined-by-other-associations/1006871/92 "2024-09-09T21:09:37Z")
Am I the only one who keeps thinking this thread is about music ruined by The Association? [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/3lzGJGGDlQk/hqdefault.jpg "The Association - Walk Away Renee - 1983") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lzGJGGDlQk) ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2024, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/classical-popular-and-movie-music-ruined-by-other-associations/1006871/93 "2024-09-09T22:41:53Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > Whenever I hear Wagner, I think of the Nazis. Just the way he wanted it! ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2024, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/classical-popular-and-movie-music-ruined-by-other-associations/1006871/94 "2024-09-09T22:53:46Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > It has branched out into other similar comedy… In fact, I have heard/read “Set that to Yakety Sax and it is comedy genius”. [Case in point.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uM140W-uWqo) ---
**Author:** ![P-man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/p-man/32/3606_2.png) [@P-man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/P-man)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2024, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/classical-popular-and-movie-music-ruined-by-other-associations/1006871/95 "2024-09-09T23:25:07Z")
> [@On another topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/1007125/16): > > We went to the Opera for “The Marriage of Figaro”. Other than the bits everyone knows from TV/movies I thought it sucked. I bet you were just mad that no one made barber chairs go up to the ceiling. ---
**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2024, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/classical-popular-and-movie-music-ruined-by-other-associations/1006871/96 "2024-09-09T23:28:41Z")
God, I am so old! [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/1jMsA1upCEU/hqdefault.jpg "RICE KRISPIES OPERA") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jMsA1upCEU) ---
**Author:** ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2024, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/classical-popular-and-movie-music-ruined-by-other-associations/1006871/97 "2024-09-09T23:49:08Z")
A couple years ago, shortly before Russia invaded Ukraine, I posted my feelings on Borodin’s expansionist Russian propaganda in the _Prince Igor_ overture and forebodings about the invasion. But everyone else only wanted to recall the old Longines Symphonette record commercial, or whatever that was, for the “Polovtsian Dances.” Et voilà: another classic ruined all to heck. ---
**Author:** ![Reeses\_Monkey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/reeses_monkey/32/2885_2.png) [@Reeses\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeses_Monkey)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/classical-popular-and-movie-music-ruined-by-other-associations/1006871/98 "2024-09-10T00:29:25Z")
In 2013 I walked down the aisle to “Ride of the Valkyries.” My husband thought it was great. The guests were confused at first but got on board pretty quickly. Our stroll back up the aisle as a married couple was to “The Liberty Bell March.” ---
**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/classical-popular-and-movie-music-ruined-by-other-associations/1006871/99 "2024-09-10T00:39:11Z")
Was that on the SDMB? Tell me I wasn’t one of the jackasses! Similarly in 2008, Putin celebrated eating Ossetia with a performance of Shostakovich’s Leningrad Symphony. And NPR, to its shame, played it. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/classical-popular-and-movie-music-ruined-by-other-associations/1006871/100 "2024-09-10T00:43:47Z")
> [@Biggirl](#): > > Tubular Bells is demon music. I feel bad about it scaring me anytime I hear it because it’s a pretty piece of music. I have a Mike Oldfield bootleg with a track of him on a radio show complaining that kids are scared of him because of that. And someone reported that years after the movie came out Mike finally watched it “and laughed his head off.” > [@hogarth](#): > > I can’t hear “Vesti la giubba” from Pagliacci without thinking of “invest in a tuba and somethin’ or other 'bout Cuba”. Spike ruined a lot of classical songs. Long before Stan Freberg used the William Tell Overture (as mentioned above) in the Pizza Rolls commercial, Spike used it for a horse race - won by Beeblebaum. Later, Dance of the Hours, for the Indy 500 race, also won by Beeblebaum [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/classical-popular-and-movie-music-ruined-by-other-associations/1006871.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/classical-popular-and-movie-music-ruined-by-other-associations/1006871.md?page=6)