# Classical, Popular, and Movie Music Ruined by Other Associations **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** movies\ **Created:** [September 6, 2024, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/classical-popular-and-movie-music-ruined-by-other-associations/1006871 "2024-09-06T19:36:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/classical-popular-and-movie-music-ruined-by-other-associations/1006871/101 "2024-09-10T00:54:47Z")
Not you, my cultured friend. Your post was the first response and you were fully on board and relevant with [my music appreciation essay](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/borodins-prince-igor-overture-beautiful-but-fraught/959566/2). Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![MrAtoz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@MrAtoz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrAtoz)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/classical-popular-and-movie-music-ruined-by-other-associations/1006871/102 "2024-09-10T01:14:20Z")
I remember that thread. Looking at it again, I see that I did contribute one post to the hijack. Sorry about that. Your original post was quite informative. I know very little about Russian classical music, except the standard list of Tchaikovsky’s greatest hits: Swan Lake, the 1812 Overture, the Nutcracker, etc. In particular, apart from the name, I know almost nothing about the Five, or the Mighty Handful, or whatever you want to call them. ---
**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/classical-popular-and-movie-music-ruined-by-other-associations/1006871/103 "2024-09-10T02:22:19Z")
More accurately, the “Mighty Three Plus Balakriev and Cui.” ---
**Author:** ![PatrickLondon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/patricklondon/32/4422_2.png) [@PatrickLondon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatrickLondon)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2024, 9:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/classical-popular-and-movie-music-ruined-by-other-associations/1006871/104 "2024-09-21T09:11:37Z")
> [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > Then there are the crap pop songs made out of romantic piano concertos Not just those: Hot Diggity (Chabrier’s _España_). Nature Boy is reminiscent of a piece by Dvorak that I can’t quite remember ☹ Bernstein’s _New York, New York_ from _On The Town_ is pretty much the same theme as in Shostakovich’s Piano Quintet. And also from Borodin via _Kismet_ are _Baubles, Bangles and Beads_ and _And This Is My Beloved_ ---
**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2024, 11:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/classical-popular-and-movie-music-ruined-by-other-associations/1006871/105 "2024-09-21T11:50:51Z")
> [@PatrickLondon](#): > > Bernstein’s _New York, New York_ from _On The Town_ is pretty much the same theme as in Shostakovich’s Piano Quintet. And “Somewhere” from _West Side Story_ is lifted directly from Beethoven’s Piano Concerto No. 5. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2024, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/classical-popular-and-movie-music-ruined-by-other-associations/1006871/106 "2024-09-21T13:02:08Z")
I can’t hear the opening notes of _Enter Sandman_ without thinking that the Yankees are about to win a game. There are other baseball closer songs but none so iconic. Maybe _Wild Thing_ from **Major League**. Similarly, when the first notes of _Sweet Caroline_ start up I’m transported to Fenway park in the middle of the 8th inning. I love hearing _Dirty Water_ since I associate it with the Red Sox winning, but that song has other positive connotations as well. Negatively, I can’t hear _Rock and Roll_ by Gary Glitter without associating it with his criminal history. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/classical-popular-and-movie-music-ruined-by-other-associations/1006871.md?page=5)