# "Classify the Men's Rights Movement as a terrorist group"

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/classify-the-mens-rights-movement-as-a-terrorist-group/689395>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 27, 2014, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/classify-the-mens-rights-movement-as-a-terrorist-group/689395 "2014-05-27T18:41:15Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2014, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/classify-the-mens-rights-movement-as-a-terrorist-group/689395/41 "2014-05-28T02:27:35Z")

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> [@levdrakon](#):
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> More sandy vagina whining.

More troll.

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2014, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/classify-the-mens-rights-movement-as-a-terrorist-group/689395/42 "2014-05-28T02:31:40Z")

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Oh please. LavenderBlue just wants to turn this into her penis-hate blog. Aren’t there enough of those?

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2014, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/classify-the-mens-rights-movement-as-a-terrorist-group/689395/43 "2014-05-28T02:34:31Z")

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> [@levdrakon](#):
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> Oh please. LavenderBlue just wants to turn this into her penis-hate blog. Aren’t there enough of those?

And your trolly goodness addresses this how?

(Alternatively, eat a whole bag of dicks.)

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**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2014, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/classify-the-mens-rights-movement-as-a-terrorist-group/689395/44 "2014-05-28T02:38:55Z")

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> [@levdrakon](#):
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> Oh please. LavenderBlue just wants to turn this into her penis-hate blog. Aren’t there enough of those?

My best friend is a man. We’ll be celebrating our 20th wedding anniversary in July.

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2014, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/classify-the-mens-rights-movement-as-a-terrorist-group/689395/45 "2014-05-28T02:38:59Z")

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> [@andros](#):
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> And your trolly goodness addresses this how?
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> (Alternatively, eat a whole bag of dicks.)

By telling her to wash that sandy vagina out?

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2014, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/classify-the-mens-rights-movement-as-a-terrorist-group/689395/46 "2014-05-28T02:39:55Z")

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> [@levdrakon](#):
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> LavenderBlue just wants to turn this into her penis-hate blog.

Uh, are you suggesting that the only reason to criticize two grown-ass able-bodied men for being unwilling to do their own housework—and expecting their fully-employed, child-rearing female relative to relocate to their neighborhood so **she** can do their housework for them—must be “penis hate”?

‘Cause if you ask me, it’s not those guys’ penises that are the trouble: it’s their brains, or what passes for such.

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2014, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/classify-the-mens-rights-movement-as-a-terrorist-group/689395/47 "2014-05-28T02:43:02Z")

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Anyway, before **levdrakon** stomped back in here with sand in his urethra and a sulky pout on his face, I thought I made a potentially interesting point about its being rather sexist and unfair to automatically label guys “losers” on the basis of superficial status markers like jobs and relationships. Any takers?

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2014, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/classify-the-mens-rights-movement-as-a-terrorist-group/689395/48 "2014-05-28T02:46:36Z")

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> [@Larry\_Borgia](#):
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> Most MRAs are whiny hateful douchebags, but they hardly rise to the level of a terrorist group.

This is pretty much my opinion as well. I just can’t see men who are sniveling about how all those mean women are picking on them as a credible threat.

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2014, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/classify-the-mens-rights-movement-as-a-terrorist-group/689395/49 "2014-05-28T02:47:08Z")

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> [@Kimstu](#):
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> Uh, are you suggesting that the only reason to criticize two grown-ass able-bodied men for being unwilling to do their own housework—and expecting their fully-employed, child-rearing female relative to relocate to their neighborhood so **she** can do their housework for them—must be “penis hate”?
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> ‘Cause if you ask me, it’s not those guys’ penises that are the trouble: it’s their brains, or what passes for such.

Take your penis hate to your favorite femi-blog. LB is full of shit. Not my fault men shun you.

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2014, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/classify-the-mens-rights-movement-as-a-terrorist-group/689395/50 "2014-05-28T02:48:17Z")

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> [@Kimstu](#):
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> Anyway, before **levdrakon** stomped back in here with sand in his urethra and a sulky pout on his face, I thought I made a potentially interesting point about its being rather sexist and unfair to automatically label guys “losers” on the basis of superficial status markers like jobs and relationships. Any takers?

I agree completely. But I might have sand in my prostate or something, so yanno, take it with a grain of salt. Or sand.

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2014, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/classify-the-mens-rights-movement-as-a-terrorist-group/689395/51 "2014-05-28T02:49:30Z")

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> [@levdrakon](#):
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> Take your penis hate to your favorite femi-blog. LB is full of shit. Not my fault men shun you.

“Troll” diagnosis tested and confirmed.

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2014, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/classify-the-mens-rights-movement-as-a-terrorist-group/689395/52 "2014-05-28T02:53:27Z")

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> [@Kimstu](#):
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> Uh, are you suggesting that the only reason to criticize two grown-ass able-bodied men for being unwilling to do their own housework—and expecting their fully-employed, child-rearing female relative to relocate to their neighborhood so **she** can do their housework for them—must be “penis hate”?
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> ‘Cause if you ask me, it’s not those guys’ penises that are the trouble: it’s their brains, or what passes for such.

LB jumped in with it in post #22.

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> You poor sad little boy. It must so hard to be discriminated against on a daily basis by the nasty-wasty vagina-winas.

She can dish it, she can take it. Or I guess I’m just being a big ol’ man meanie?

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2014, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/classify-the-mens-rights-movement-as-a-terrorist-group/689395/53 "2014-05-28T02:53:39Z")

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> [@andros](#):
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> I agree completely. But I might have sand in my prostate or something, so yanno, take it with a grain of salt. Or sand.

Yeah, just because MRAs are mostly counterproductive whiners doesn’t mean that there don’t exist any societal phenomena that are genuinely unfair to men.

Of course, the cure for that unfairness is **more** feminism, not less. Stereotyped gender expectations are a feminist issue no matter which gender they’re being applied to.

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**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2014, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/classify-the-mens-rights-movement-as-a-terrorist-group/689395/54 "2014-05-28T02:54:43Z")

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> [@Kimstu](#):
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> Anyway, before **levdrakon** stomped back in here with sand in his urethra and a sulky pout on his face, I thought I made a potentially interesting point about its being rather sexist and unfair to automatically label guys “losers” on the basis of superficial status markers like jobs and relationships. Any takers?

I’ll agree with this. BUT there’s a big difference between being mentally ill and unable to work and being a lazy ass mooching off your parents at nearly 40yo.

I don’t grok much at what a person does for a living, as long as you’re putting in an honest 40hrs a week (or sincerely trying too) you’re alright in my book. That includes 40+ year old men (or women) flipping burgers at McDonald’s.

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**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2014, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/classify-the-mens-rights-movement-as-a-terrorist-group/689395/55 "2014-05-28T02:54:54Z")

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> [@levdrakon](#):
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> Take your penis hate to your favorite femi-blog. LB is full of shit. Not my fault men shun you.

You’re an idiot. Just like my able bodied brother and my able father and their belief that I should act like my mom and clean up after them without compensation and solely because they are male. I don’t hate the male organ. I have routine and enjoyable contact with one typically at least twice a week.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2014, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/classify-the-mens-rights-movement-as-a-terrorist-group/689395/56 "2014-05-28T03:03:21Z")

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> [@Kimstu](#):
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> Anyway, before **levdrakon** stomped back in here with sand in his urethra and a sulky pout on his face, I thought I made a potentially interesting point about its being rather sexist and unfair to automatically label guys “losers” on the basis of superficial status markers like jobs and relationships. Any takers?

It’s a valid, mature point, which is probably why **levdrakon** is now shouting and waving his penis like a three-year-old who wants attention. These MRA guys are losers - I can’t understand why they’re so desperate to fuck women when they just fucking hate them so much - but not everybody with a different set of priorities is a loser.

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2014, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/classify-the-mens-rights-movement-as-a-terrorist-group/689395/57 "2014-05-28T03:07:34Z")

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> [@LavenderBlue](#):
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> I don’t hate the male organ. I have routine and enjoyable contact with one typically at least twice a week.

You go girl! But as long as I’m nitpicking posts for stereotypical gender expectations, here’s another one I don’t like: That women, particularly feminists, somehow have to justify our right to criticize sexism by being in a healthy heterosexual relationship. (Or, for that matter, that men need to be in such a relationship to justify their right to criticize anti-male sexism.)

I think healthy, happy, feminism-positive relationships are terrific. But I don’t think personal experience of them needs to be invoked to validate anyone’s opinions.

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2014, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/classify-the-mens-rights-movement-as-a-terrorist-group/689395/58 "2014-05-28T03:09:30Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> […] not everybody with a different set of priorities is a loser.

Exactly. Thanks, guys. You know what? I miss my brother. ☹ [/hijack]

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**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2014, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/classify-the-mens-rights-movement-as-a-terrorist-group/689395/59 "2014-05-28T03:10:58Z")

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> [@Kimstu](#):
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> You go girl! But as long as I’m nitpicking posts for stereotypical gender expectations, here’s another one I don’t like: That women, particularly feminists, somehow have to justify our right to criticize sexism by being in a healthy heterosexual relationship. (Or, for that matter, that men need to be in such a relationship to justify their right to criticize anti-male sexism.)
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> I think healthy, happy, feminism-positive relationships are terrific. But I don’t think personal experience of them needs to be invoked to validate anyone’s opinions.

I probably should have kept that last bit of info private.

:o

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2014, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/classify-the-mens-rights-movement-as-a-terrorist-group/689395/60 "2014-05-28T03:15:56Z")

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> [@LavenderBlue](#):
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> I probably should have kept that last bit of info private.
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> :o

Nah, it’s the internet, no worries. **Everybody** here is dirty or crazy or some combination of the two. 🙂

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