# Claudia Black: Gorgeous Babe or Margaret Hamilton lite?

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [February 22, 2006, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/claudia-black-gorgeous-babe-or-margaret-hamilton-lite/345640 "2006-02-22T16:05:29Z")\
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**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2006, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/claudia-black-gorgeous-babe-or-margaret-hamilton-lite/345640/21 "2006-02-22T18:49:15Z")

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> [@a35362](#):
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> I thought she was Australian…?
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> I’ve only ever seen her in _Pitch Black_.

There was apparently a popular show called _Farscape_ on for a while, on cable. She was in that, too.

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**Author:** ![ddgryphon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/8c91f0/32.png) [@ddgryphon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ddgryphon)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2006, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/claudia-black-gorgeous-babe-or-margaret-hamilton-lite/345640/22 "2006-02-22T20:05:41Z")

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> [@Zeldar](#):
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> It’s not just you. No matter how often I see her and marvel at her looks, every time I see Angelina Jolie, I see Jon Voight. I saw him before I knew they were related.
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> Just out of curiosity, since we seem to have similar inclinations for pulling other faces into new faces, are you one to put a face on a voice or someone’s writing style? Like, do you have faces associated with a fair number of Dopers whose faces you have yet to see – either in person or by way of photos here?
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> I’ve thought of starting a thread on that issue, but with the luck my threads have been having lately I’ll just stop with this mini-hijack. 🙂

I’ll do that with a voice, but not with writing styles. I always, even as a kid, put faces to the voices on the radio.

And yes, I’m with you on the Jon Voight/Angelina Jolie, that’s part of why I don’t get the sex appeal she seems to have for a lot of people.

Maybe we should start a separated at birth thread. I don’t know if they have a site, but man, I picked up that book going, yes, yes, yes, finally somebody else gets it.

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2006, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/claudia-black-gorgeous-babe-or-margaret-hamilton-lite/345640/23 "2006-02-22T20:12:00Z")

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> [@ddgryphon](#):
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> I’ll do that with a voice, but not with writing styles. I always, even as a kid, put faces to the voices on the radio.
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> And yes, I’m with you on the Jon Voight/Angelina Jolie, that’s part of why I don’t get the sex appeal she seems to have for a lot of people.
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> Maybe we should start a separated at birth thread. I don’t know if they have a site, but man, I picked up that book going, yes, yes, yes, finally somebody else gets it.

To take this just one step further, who did you see in Johnny Depp’s character in _Charley and the Chocolate Factory_? For me it was a blend of Judge Judy, Carol Channing, maybe a dash of Carol Burnett and somebody I still can’t quite place. (Maybe a soupcon of Michael Jackson?) I hope you’ve seen that one.

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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2006, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/claudia-black-gorgeous-babe-or-margaret-hamilton-lite/345640/24 "2006-02-22T20:13:17Z")

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> [@ddgryphon](#):
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> She’s cute, but not model pretty

That interpretation is rather at odds with the post in question:

> [@Ethilrist](#):
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> Vote: Babe, and well-versed in playing a kickass woman in charage of… well… stuff.
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> But not pretty enough to get the title role in a fluffy Hollywood movie. Consider who they cast for Mary Jane in Spiderman…

I simply can’t interpret this post in a way to say Kirstin Dunst was NOT PRETTY ENOUGH to play MJ.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2006, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/claudia-black-gorgeous-babe-or-margaret-hamilton-lite/345640/25 "2006-02-22T20:34:11Z")

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> [@Zeldar](#):
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> To take this just one step further, who did you see in Johnny Depp’s character in _Charley and the Chocolate Factory_? For me it was a blend of Judge Judy, Carol Channing, maybe a dash of Carol Burnett and somebody I still can’t quite place.

[Edith Head](http://www.tucsonweekly.com/tw/2002-01-10/review3-1.gif)?

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**Author:** ![ddgryphon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/8c91f0/32.png) [@ddgryphon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ddgryphon)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2006, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/claudia-black-gorgeous-babe-or-margaret-hamilton-lite/345640/26 "2006-02-22T21:28:52Z")

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> [@Zeldar](#):
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> To take this just one step further, who did you see in Johnny Depp’s character in _Charley and the Chocolate Factory_? For me it was a blend of Judge Judy, Carol Channing, maybe a dash of Carol Burnett and somebody I still can’t quite place. (Maybe a soupcon of Michael Jackson?) I hope you’ve seen that one.

Strangely enough I saw him, when I just heard the voice, as a small, thin, effiminate, blond boy with curls. But I definitely got the Carol Channing-Michael Jackson vibe.

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**Author:** ![Elza\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Elza\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elza_B)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2006, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/claudia-black-gorgeous-babe-or-margaret-hamilton-lite/345640/27 "2006-02-22T21:31:02Z")

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> [@a35362](#):
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> I thought she was Australian…?
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> I’ve only ever seen her in _Pitch Black_.

She is Australian, but she apparently spent a lot of time in England studying theatre (and I believe part of her childhood was spent in England, as well.). Hence the British accent.

I vote for babe. Total babe. ElzaHub has serious lust for her as well, once I introduced him to _Farscape_ (although he likes her on Stargate better, simply for the costuming 😃 ).

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**Author:** ![ddgryphon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/8c91f0/32.png) [@ddgryphon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ddgryphon)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2006, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/claudia-black-gorgeous-babe-or-margaret-hamilton-lite/345640/28 "2006-02-22T21:31:09Z")

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> [@Tengu](#):
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> That interpretation is rather at odds with the post in question:
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> I simply can’t interpret this post in a way to say Kirstin Dunst was NOT PRETTY ENOUGH to play MJ.

Well, twas just a guess, based on my own feelings. Maybe they will come back and clarify.

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**Author:** ![akira5822](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/53a042/32.png) [@akira5822](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/akira5822)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2006, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/claudia-black-gorgeous-babe-or-margaret-hamilton-lite/345640/29 "2006-02-22T22:01:08Z")

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Although i am an avowed chubby chaser i find myself very attracted to her …Something about chicks with guns 😛

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**Author:** ![AskNott](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asknott/32/5790_2.png) [@AskNott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AskNott)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2006, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/claudia-black-gorgeous-babe-or-margaret-hamilton-lite/345640/30 "2006-02-22T23:19:08Z")

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She reminds me a bit of Sophia Loren, a certified babe of a previous era.

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**Author:** ![Charlie\_Tan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/charlie_tan/32/12582_2.png) [@Charlie\_Tan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Charlie_Tan)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2006, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/claudia-black-gorgeous-babe-or-margaret-hamilton-lite/345640/31 "2006-02-22T23:40:22Z")

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> [@ddgryphon](#):
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> I think they’re referencing the unsitability of Kirsten Dunst for the role. She’s cute, but not model pretty, nor is she tall, as she should be.
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> And of course, she’s a blonde, not a redhead and she just looks wrong with the dye job.

Yeah, she’s only 5’7". A midget really. Ray Stevens did a song about her. Before she was born.

Seriously, at 6’3" I don’t think 5’7" is very tall, but it certainly isn’t petite and surely it’s well over average.

Back to the OP - CB has a very interesting face and I’d do her, but she is in no way a traditional beauty. She reminds me a bit of [Sonia Braga](http://www.eamgmt.com/eam_images_medium/hair_makeup/David%20Michaud/beauty/08%20sonia%20braga-web_th.jpg).

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**Author:** ![cher3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/da6949/32.png) [@cher3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cher3)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2006, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/claudia-black-gorgeous-babe-or-margaret-hamilton-lite/345640/32 "2006-02-22T23:45:55Z")

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> [@Zeldar](#):
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> To take this just one step further, who did you see in Johnny Depp’s character in _Charley and the Chocolate Factory_? For me it was a blend of Judge Judy, Carol Channing, maybe a dash of Carol Burnett and somebody I still can’t quite place. (Maybe a soupcon of Michael Jackson?) I hope you’ve seen that one.

I heard Dana Carvey doing GHW Bush.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2006, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/claudia-black-gorgeous-babe-or-margaret-hamilton-lite/345640/33 "2006-02-22T23:49:04Z")

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> [@ddgryphon](#):
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> I think they’re referencing the unsitability of Kirsten Dunst for the role. She’s cute, but not model pretty . . .

:mad: Pistols at dawn, sir!

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2006, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/claudia-black-gorgeous-babe-or-margaret-hamilton-lite/345640/34 "2006-02-22T23:50:38Z")

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> [@cher3](#):
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> I heard Dana Carvey doing GHW Bush.

I believe that just might be it! Thanks!

I am willing to bet that Depp fused those various influences more or less deliberately. I don’t see him stumbling onto things like that nor in just “doing a voice” for the character. Too many examples of his ability to mimic almost anybody, and the cleverness to be a chameleon of types. Every time I see him I’m still more impressed.

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**Author:** ![drewbert](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drewbert/32/15890_2.png) [@drewbert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewbert)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2006, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/claudia-black-gorgeous-babe-or-margaret-hamilton-lite/345640/35 "2006-02-22T23:55:12Z")

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Claudia Black? Complete and utter babe. But no, not right for Wonder Woman.

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**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2006, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/claudia-black-gorgeous-babe-or-margaret-hamilton-lite/345640/36 "2006-02-22T23:58:09Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> :mad: Pistols at dawn, sir!

And I’ll be there to back you up.

About Claudia Black: Margeret Hamilton Lite. And I think “Lite” may be too generous.

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2006, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/claudia-black-gorgeous-babe-or-margaret-hamilton-lite/345640/37 "2006-02-23T01:07:18Z")

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Claudia Black: Excellent actress. Does kickass heroine (or villainess, I imagine) very well. But not a babe.

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**Post date:** [February 23, 2006, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/claudia-black-gorgeous-babe-or-margaret-hamilton-lite/345640/38 "2006-02-23T01:31:02Z")

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She is rather ‘mannish’.

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**Post date:** [February 23, 2006, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/claudia-black-gorgeous-babe-or-margaret-hamilton-lite/345640/39 "2006-02-23T01:33:41Z")

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I first saw her in _Pitch Black_. Took an instant dislike to her. Can’t stand her in anything since, which in this case is only a few glimpses of _Farscape_.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2006, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/claudia-black-gorgeous-babe-or-margaret-hamilton-lite/345640/40 "2006-02-23T01:39:46Z")

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> [@Larry Mudd](#):
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> [Edith Head](http://www.tucsonweekly.com/tw/2002-01-10/review3-1.gif)?

Hey that’s E or Edna from the **Incredibles**.

On **Claudia Black** : Not a Hollywood Hottie but a good looking woman.  
**Margeret Hamilton** : She needed the witch make up to look less ugly.

Jim

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