# Clenching your buttocks during a Terry stop? Prepare for your anal probing. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 6, 2013, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clenching-your-buttocks-during-a-terry-stop-prepare-for-your-anal-probing/673255 "2013-11-06T17:25:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clenching-your-buttocks-during-a-terry-stop-prepare-for-your-anal-probing/673255/41 "2013-11-07T03:57:52Z")
The Deming PD needs to listen to [this guy](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBhru5nLpGE) (the one who has a problem with it, I mean). ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clenching-your-buttocks-during-a-terry-stop-prepare-for-your-anal-probing/673255/42 "2013-11-07T03:59:08Z")
> [@purplehorseshoe](#): > > WTF did they think the third enema would turn up . . . ? His voice? ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clenching-your-buttocks-during-a-terry-stop-prepare-for-your-anal-probing/673255/43 "2013-11-07T04:05:11Z")
Well it was Albuquerque. [Here’s a picture of the guy.](http://cathleenfalsani.religionnews.com/files/2013/08/thumbRNS-BREAKING-BAD081913a.jpg)This explains a lot. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clenching-your-buttocks-during-a-terry-stop-prepare-for-your-anal-probing/673255/44 "2013-11-07T04:13:06Z")
Was he driving a truck with an expired emissions inspection tag? ---
**Author:** ![tbook](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/df705f/32.png) [@tbook](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tbook)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clenching-your-buttocks-during-a-terry-stop-prepare-for-your-anal-probing/673255/45 "2013-11-07T04:45:42Z")
Well, the good news is that by being billed almost $6,000 for a govt anal probe, he may be just able to meet his yearly deductible for an ObamaCare Bronze plan. ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Downtown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Mr\_Downtown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr_Downtown)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clenching-your-buttocks-during-a-terry-stop-prepare-for-your-anal-probing/673255/46 "2013-11-07T04:48:11Z")
No, it _wasn’t_ Albuquerque. It was Deming, hundreds of miles south of Albuquerque on I-10. ---
**Author:** ![RetroVertigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b38774/32.png) [@RetroVertigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RetroVertigo)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clenching-your-buttocks-during-a-terry-stop-prepare-for-your-anal-probing/673255/47 "2013-11-07T05:02:50Z")
Was he sedated, against his will, for the colonoscopy? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clenching-your-buttocks-during-a-terry-stop-prepare-for-your-anal-probing/673255/48 "2013-11-07T05:04:36Z")
Shouldn’t have taken that left turn at Albuquerque. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clenching-your-buttocks-during-a-terry-stop-prepare-for-your-anal-probing/673255/49 "2013-11-07T05:06:56Z")
> [@tbook](#): > > Well, the good news is that by being billed almost $6,000 for a govt anal probe, he may be just able to meet his yearly deductible for an ObamaCare Bronze plan. Dennis Miller? Is that you? ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clenching-your-buttocks-during-a-terry-stop-prepare-for-your-anal-probing/673255/50 "2013-11-07T05:14:19Z")
> [@RetroVertigo](#): > > Was he sedated, against his will, for the colonoscopy? Either that, or they did a colonoscopy, against his will, without sedation. Kind of a win-win for the prosecution. ---
**Author:** ![Carmady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f04885/32.png) [@Carmady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carmady)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clenching-your-buttocks-during-a-terry-stop-prepare-for-your-anal-probing/673255/51 "2013-11-07T05:18:42Z")
> **[Terrifying Drug War Story Of The Day: Man Receives Multiple Anal Probes After...](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/terrifying-drug-war-story_n_4219707)** > > Terrifying Drug War Story Of The Day: Man Receives Multiple Anal Probes After Traffic Stop > [@](#): > > The first doctor the police asked to perform the procedure refused. But the police then took Eckert to Gila Regional Medical Center, where, according to his lawsuit, he was first subjected to abdominal x-rays (no drugs), two anal penetrations with fingers (no drugs), three enemas (no drugs), another round of x-rays (no drugs), and, finally, sedation, followed by a colonoscopy of his “anus, rectum, colon, and large intestines.” No drugs. All of this was of course done without Eckert’s consent. > > The procedures – actually, let’s call this what it is – the repeated sexual assaults were also apparently performed in a county other than the one named on the warrant, and the colonoscopy was done after the warrant had expired. Amazing. Multiple x-rays, anal penetrations, enemas, forced defecation in front of an audience. On and on, when nothing had been found at any point. When nothing continued to be found, he was sedated against his will and operated on. In a county not named on the warrant. After the warrant had expired. He really deserves a huge payout. And if it gets these cops off the street (please, please), it is money well spent. ---
**Author:** ![user\_hostile](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/user_hostile/32/474_2.png) [@user\_hostile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/user_hostile)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 6:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clenching-your-buttocks-during-a-terry-stop-prepare-for-your-anal-probing/673255/52 "2013-11-07T06:25:29Z")
> [@](#): > > In the search warrant affidavit that sought permission for an anal cavity probe, one police officer said he asked Eckert for permission to physically search him after the minor traffic stop. When Eckert refused, the document says, a police K-9 dog alerted them to the side of his car. Kennedy alleges the dog is not certified to search for drugs and _may actually be a pet_. “Bring Your Pet To Work Day”? ---
**Author:** ![grude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47774/32.png) [@grude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grude)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 6:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clenching-your-buttocks-during-a-terry-stop-prepare-for-your-anal-probing/673255/53 "2013-11-07T06:59:27Z")
There has to be more to this story than is reported, and I don’t mean on the victim’s part. I mean the cops and doctors involved, there is more going on here. ---
**Author:** ![grude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47774/32.png) [@grude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grude)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 7:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clenching-your-buttocks-during-a-terry-stop-prepare-for-your-anal-probing/673255/54 "2013-11-07T07:07:19Z")
YUP! Another man went through the same ordeal with these same cops. [http://www.kob.com/article/stories/S3210356.shtml?cat=500#.Uns7HCe2YyP](http://www.kob.com/article/stories/S3210356.shtml?cat=500#.Uns7HCe2YyP) > [@](#): > > Our investigation reveals another chapter. Another man, another minor traffic violation, another incident with Leo the K-9 and another example of the violation of a man’s body. > > Police reports state deputies stopped Timothy Young because he turned without putting his blinker on. > > Again, Leo the K-9 alerts on Young’s seat. > > Young is taken to the Gila Regional Medical Center in Silver City, and just like Eckert, he’s subjected to medical procedures including x-rays of his stomach and an anal exam. > > Again, police found nothing, and again the procedures were done without consent, and in a county not covered by the search warrant. > > We’ve learned more about that drug dog, Leo, that seems to get it wrong pretty often. He might be getting it wrong because he’s not even certified in New Mexico. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 8:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clenching-your-buttocks-during-a-terry-stop-prepare-for-your-anal-probing/673255/55 "2013-11-07T08:05:40Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > IANALorMD, but I believe it is unethical for a doctor to perform an invasive procedure without the consent of the patient. I think unethical behaviour can result in the loss of one’s medical license. I don’t know about that, but “lack of informed consent” is certainly stated in the lawsuit complaint\*; as is the tort of “battery,” which, when used in lawsuits involving medical matters, often means that the patient has not given the physician permission to touch the patient. The physicians who performed the procedures, as well as the medical center where they were performed, have been named as defendants. - The complaint can be found [here](http://www.scribd.com/doc/181730326/Traffic-Complaint-pdf) (warning, PDF). ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 8:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clenching-your-buttocks-during-a-terry-stop-prepare-for-your-anal-probing/673255/56 "2013-11-07T08:34:52Z")
[QUOTE=grude] We’ve learned more about that drug dog, Leo, that seems to get it wrong pretty often. He might be getting it wrong because he’s not even certified in New Mexico. [/QUOTE] I hate dogs who just make shit up on their resumes. Don’t they think we check ?! ---
**Author:** ![Cyros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a698b9/32.png) [@Cyros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cyros)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 10:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clenching-your-buttocks-during-a-terry-stop-prepare-for-your-anal-probing/673255/57 "2013-11-07T10:35:12Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > IANALorMD, but I believe it is unethical for a doctor to perform an invasive procedure without the consent of the patient. I think unethical behaviour can result in the loss of one’s medical license. He gave implied consent. He could have prevented the whole chain of events simply by admitting to having invisible/incorporeal drugs in his anus. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 11:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clenching-your-buttocks-during-a-terry-stop-prepare-for-your-anal-probing/673255/58 "2013-11-07T11:37:38Z")
> [@Cyros](#): > > He gave implied consent. He could have prevented the whole chain of events simply by admitting to having invisible/incorporeal drugs in his anus. Bullshit. Suppose they accused him of hiding drugs in his testicles. Would he then have a choice of going to prison or castration? ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 11:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clenching-your-buttocks-during-a-terry-stop-prepare-for-your-anal-probing/673255/59 "2013-11-07T11:44:07Z")
You might want to read the second sentence of the quoted post one more time. 🙂 (I assume I’m right about the way _I’m_ reading it, but hey.) ---
**Author:** ![Cyros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a698b9/32.png) [@Cyros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cyros)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clenching-your-buttocks-during-a-terry-stop-prepare-for-your-anal-probing/673255/60 "2013-11-07T12:50:00Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > Bullshit. Suppose they accused him of hiding drugs in his testicles. Would he then have a choice of going to prison or castration? Sorry, it was a joke meant to riff on the argument that a pregnant woman gives implied consent to an ultrasound when seeking an abortion because if she doesn’t consent she can just carry the child to term. It popped into my head when I read **Marley23** ’s post number 26. > [@Marley23](#): > > I can’t believe this kind of thing could happen to someone who wasn’t a woman wanting an abortion. To reaffirm, I in no way actually believe that the victim in this case gave any sort of real consent for these procedures. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clenching-your-buttocks-during-a-terry-stop-prepare-for-your-anal-probing/673255.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clenching-your-buttocks-during-a-terry-stop-prepare-for-your-anal-probing/673255.md?page=4)