# Clenching your buttocks during a Terry stop? Prepare for your anal probing. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 6, 2013, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clenching-your-buttocks-during-a-terry-stop-prepare-for-your-anal-probing/673255 "2013-11-06T17:25:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2013, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clenching-your-buttocks-during-a-terry-stop-prepare-for-your-anal-probing/673255/81 "2013-11-08T00:42:13Z")
The troubling thing is that the Deming PD and the hospital staff in Silver City felt the need to crawl up into this guy’s ass to look for something the k9 thought he smelled on the driver seat. At what point should they consider how wasted the guy would be if he had leaky bundles stashed way up in there? Perhaps they should have started with a pee or blood test? ---
**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2013, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clenching-your-buttocks-during-a-terry-stop-prepare-for-your-anal-probing/673255/82 "2013-11-08T00:43:25Z")
I’m wondering if imposing the title “Doctor” or “Nurse” removes the ability of the anointed to read. Could no one (with one exception) read the warrant and see that it was for the wrong time and the wrong place? Were they so anxious to perform this delightful operation that they couldn’t take the time to see if it was legal? Were they so quivering with anticipation to help out the long arm (and finger) of the law that they were blind to personal rights? ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2013, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clenching-your-buttocks-during-a-terry-stop-prepare-for-your-anal-probing/673255/83 "2013-11-08T01:46:39Z")
Can somebody with more legal knowledge than me address the warrant issue? I realize it was signed by a judge in one county and it was executed in a different county. But is that necessarily wrong? Or can a judge sign a warrant that’s good anywhere in the state? I know when I used to sign warrants, they were good throughout the state. But those were arrest warrants not search warrants and I was a state employee. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2013, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clenching-your-buttocks-during-a-terry-stop-prepare-for-your-anal-probing/673255/84 "2013-11-08T02:02:33Z")
I, for one, will no longer be clenching my buttocks in the presence of LE. Consequences be what they may. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2013, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clenching-your-buttocks-during-a-terry-stop-prepare-for-your-anal-probing/673255/85 "2013-11-08T02:34:34Z")
This is the same highway that rock star tour buses keep getting pulled over for weed near that shit-hole town in Texas, ain’t it? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2013, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clenching-your-buttocks-during-a-terry-stop-prepare-for-your-anal-probing/673255/86 "2013-11-08T04:22:58Z")
> [@](#): > > …that shit-hole town in Texas… You’re gonna have to be a lot more specific than that. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2013, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clenching-your-buttocks-during-a-terry-stop-prepare-for-your-anal-probing/673255/87 "2013-11-08T04:24:00Z")
By the way, was it ever defined what a “Terry stop” is? ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2013, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clenching-your-buttocks-during-a-terry-stop-prepare-for-your-anal-probing/673255/88 "2013-11-08T04:32:15Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > By the way, was it ever defined what a “Terry stop” is? [Terry stop.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_stop) > [@](#): > > In the United States, a “Terry stop” is a brief detention of a person by police[1] on reasonable suspicion of involvement in criminal activity but short of probable cause to arrest. > > The name derives from Terry v. Ohio, 392 U.S. 1 (1968),[2] in which the Supreme Court of the United States held that police may briefly detain a person whom they reasonably suspect is involved in criminal activity;[3] the Court also held that police may do a limited search of the suspect’s outer garments for weapons if they have a reasonable and articulable suspicion that the person detained may be “armed and dangerous”.[4] When a search for weapons is authorized, the procedure is known as a “stop and frisk”. Terry stops generally do not include anal probes. ---
**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2013, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clenching-your-buttocks-during-a-terry-stop-prepare-for-your-anal-probing/673255/89 "2013-11-08T04:37:07Z")
Are you asking legally luci? A Terry stop comes from a 1968 case, terry v Ohio where the Supreme Court held that police may briefly detain a person whom they reasonably suspect is involved in criminal activity. Among other things, but that’s the pertinent part for here. ---
**Author:** ![appleciders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85f322/32.png) [@appleciders](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/appleciders)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2013, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clenching-your-buttocks-during-a-terry-stop-prepare-for-your-anal-probing/673255/90 "2013-11-08T04:47:32Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > By the way, was it ever defined what a “Terry stop” is? [Terry Stop](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_stop). Or is that what you meant? ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2013, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clenching-your-buttocks-during-a-terry-stop-prepare-for-your-anal-probing/673255/91 "2013-11-08T05:35:13Z")
> [@Musicat](#): > > I’m wondering if imposing the title “Doctor” or “Nurse” removes the ability of the anointed to read. Could no one (with one exception) read the warrant and see that it was for the wrong time and the wrong place? Were they so anxious to perform this delightful operation that they couldn’t take the time to see if it was legal? Does the search warrant even matter to them? “A judge wants us to find out what’s up there” sounds like a pretty awful reason for a doctor to agree to perform an invasive procedure. And evidently the first doctor felt that way, which is why it was all done outside of the county and after the warrant expired. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2013, 7:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clenching-your-buttocks-during-a-terry-stop-prepare-for-your-anal-probing/673255/92 "2013-11-08T07:40:15Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > There’s a Deming in Texas as well. Wonder if the founder stopped in Texas, started a town, then a few years later said “Oh, fuck _this_ shit!” and kept on to New Mexico, and died. Otherwise, might be a Deming, Arizona. There is? Where? My map does not seem to show one. The only other Deming I see is a CDP where the Nooksack Tribal offices are in Whatcom County WA. ---
**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2013, 8:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clenching-your-buttocks-during-a-terry-stop-prepare-for-your-anal-probing/673255/93 "2013-11-08T08:05:52Z")
What, this sort of forced and humiliating intrusion into someone’s body by the state is wrong and open to abuse of power by people who simply want to harass? What? Gawrsh, it seemed like it was so fair when we did it to rape victims who wanted abortions. This just seems like a horrendous thing to do to a person, you know, because a \*guy \*is involved. Who _wasn’t_ a rape victim until the forced anal probing by the state. Gee, do you really want your government mandating fingers and objects inserted into your nether regions? I don’t. ---
**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2013, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clenching-your-buttocks-during-a-terry-stop-prepare-for-your-anal-probing/673255/94 "2013-11-08T12:59:25Z")
> [@Lord\_Feldon](#): > > Does the search warrant even matter to them? “A judge wants us to find out what’s up there” sounds like a pretty awful reason for a doctor to agree to perform an invasive procedure. And evidently the first doctor felt that way, which is why it was all done outside of the county and after the warrant expired. IANADoctor, but if I was asked to perform such a procedure against the recipient’s will, I’d want to cover my ass (pun intended) by being as sure as possible that everything was above board and out in the open (also pun intended, but I’m dead serious). ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2013, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clenching-your-buttocks-during-a-terry-stop-prepare-for-your-anal-probing/673255/95 "2013-11-08T13:01:21Z")
> [@Askthepizzaguy](#): > > What, this sort of forced and humiliating intrusion into someone’s body by the state is wrong and open to abuse of power by people who simply want to harass? What? > > Gawrsh, it seemed like it was so fair when we did it to rape victims who wanted abortions. > > This just seems like a horrendous thing to do to a person, you know, because a \*guy \*is involved. Who are you even _talking_ to? ---
**Author:** ![kayT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayt/32/3633_2.png) [@kayT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayT)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2013, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clenching-your-buttocks-during-a-terry-stop-prepare-for-your-anal-probing/673255/96 "2013-11-08T13:14:10Z")
I keep reading the OP title as “prepare for your annual probing” and it makes me clench my buttocks. Guess I’m in trouble. ---
**Author:** ![DoctorJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctorj/32/2904_2.png) [@DoctorJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DoctorJ)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2013, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clenching-your-buttocks-during-a-terry-stop-prepare-for-your-anal-probing/673255/97 "2013-11-08T13:29:43Z")
The more I think about it, the more I think there has to be more to this story. I just can’t believe that a hospital would let this happen. If I tried to do a procedure like this on a mentally competent patient who was vocally protesting and not giving consent, I’d have the hospital’s legal team so far up my ass that I’d need a scope myself just to get them out. It’s all possible, I suppose, but I’d really like to hear the hospital’s side of things. ---
**Author:** ![Nars\_Glinley](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nars_glinley/32/8177_2.png) [@Nars\_Glinley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nars_Glinley)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2013, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clenching-your-buttocks-during-a-terry-stop-prepare-for-your-anal-probing/673255/98 "2013-11-08T14:06:06Z")
According to the defendant’s lawyer: “Kennedy filed a motion for summary judgment Oct. 24, asking the court to rule on the facts of the case, which she says are not disputed. She says defendants responded by expressing interest in resolving the case outside of court.” I guess that could just be lawyer speak. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2013, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clenching-your-buttocks-during-a-terry-stop-prepare-for-your-anal-probing/673255/99 "2013-11-08T14:54:44Z")
The \*defendants \*want to stay out of court, sure. Good luck with that. ---
**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2013, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clenching-your-buttocks-during-a-terry-stop-prepare-for-your-anal-probing/673255/100 "2013-11-08T15:05:13Z")
> [@DoctorJ](#): > > It’s all possible, I suppose, but I’d really like to hear the hospital’s side of things. I would, too, but I have a hard time imagining how a different point of view would change much. Maybe they probed him only twice instead of thrice? Only stuck a scope a foot up his cathedral, not two feet? Yeah, that makes all the difference. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clenching-your-buttocks-during-a-terry-stop-prepare-for-your-anal-probing/673255.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clenching-your-buttocks-during-a-terry-stop-prepare-for-your-anal-probing/673255.md?page=6)