# Cleopatra and the Syrian sons

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**Created:** [June 27, 2006, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleopatra-and-the-syrian-sons/362289 "2006-06-27T00:53:27Z")\
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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2006, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleopatra-and-the-syrian-sons/362289/1 "2006-06-27T00:53:27Z")

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Disclaimer: this is help with homework, but I think it’s acceptable, inasmuch as I’m looking for pointers to a classical text that I’ve so far been unable to find.

I’m writing an undergrad research paper on CLeopatra, trying to make the case (in part) that she’s a pretty savvy politician, and I’ve come across an undocumented reference to an event in which a Roman governer in Syria sent his sons to Alexandria to call up some Roman legions who have settled there. The soldiers, not keen on returning to war, murder the sons; Cleopatra responds by arresting the soldiers and sending them to the deprived father for punishment. I’ve so far failed to find either a primary source or a scholarly secondary source to document this; does anyone know details of this event, and better yet know an online scholarly source that describes it? I’ve skimmed Plutarch, Appian, and what little I can find of Cicero and Lucan, but so far haven’t had any luck.

Thanks!  
Daniel

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**Author:** ![Satyagrahi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f475e1/32.png) [@Satyagrahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Satyagrahi)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2006, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleopatra-and-the-syrian-sons/362289/2 "2006-06-27T04:24:02Z")

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I know that the story is recounted in Colleen McCullough’s Masters of Rome series of historical fiction about Julius Caesar and the century of civil war that turned Rome from a republic to a monarchy. She also states that she will supply a bibliography if you send her a stamped self-addressed envelope…but since she lives on an island in the South Pacific, this may not help you very soon.

Here’s a [link](http://www.isidore-of-seville.com/cleopatra/) claiming to list 580 resources regarding Cleopatra. Maybe you can find something.

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**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2006, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleopatra-and-the-syrian-sons/362289/3 "2006-06-27T04:51:02Z")

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As footnoted by Peter Green in Alexander to Actium:\* The Historical Evolution of the Hellenistic Age\* ( 1990, University of California Press ) it’s cited by:

- Valerius Maximus in 4.1.15 of his _Factovrum Dictorvm Memorabilivm Libri Novem_.

- Julius Caesar himself in his _Comentarii de Bello Civili_, 3.110.

- And secopndarily cited to a German work, I. Becher’s Das Bild der Kleopatra in der griechischen und lateinischen Literature ( 1966, Berlin ).

Green himself mentions the incident on page 664 of the aforementioned volume.

- Tamerlane

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2006, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleopatra-and-the-syrian-sons/362289/4 "2006-06-27T17:13:19Z")

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> [@Tamerlane](#):
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> As footnoted by Peter Green in Alexander to Actium:\* The Historical Evolution of the Hellenistic Age\* ( 1990, University of California Press ) it’s cited by:
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> - Valerius Maximus in 4.1.15 of his _Factovrum Dictorvm Memorabilivm Libri Novem_.
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> - Julius Caesar himself in his _Comentarii de Bello Civili_, 3.110.
> 
> - And secopndarily cited to a German work, I. Becher’s Das Bild der Kleopatra in der griechischen und lateinischen Literature ( 1966, Berlin ).
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> Green himself mentions the incident on page 664 of the aforementioned volume.
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> - Tamerlane

Awesome–thanks much! I’ll see if I can find these.

Daniel
