# Clerks vs Clerks 2

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [June 20, 2010, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clerks-vs-clerks-2/543831 "2010-06-20T02:47:07Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 12\
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**Author:** ![Uncle\_Brother\_Walker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f08c70/32.png) [@Uncle\_Brother\_Walker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncle_Brother_Walker)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clerks-vs-clerks-2/543831/21 "2010-06-22T04:49:33Z")

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My opinion is simple: Clerks I was the better of the two, but only because it was a instant cult classic.

I liked Clerks II because it \*didn’t \*suck, as most comedy sequels do, IMO.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2010, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clerks-vs-clerks-2/543831/22 "2010-06-22T05:44:44Z")

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I’ve always thought one of the best parts of _Clerks II_ was the different ways Dante and Randall handled their blue collar existences. Both were worried but they were looking in different directions. Dante still hoped that he could escape to something better and was worried about missing his chance to move up and out. Randall, on the other hand, had come to accept his life - he knew he was never going to be more than what he was. What he was worried about was losing what little he had.

This played into the relationship between Randall and Dante. Dante is Randall’s best friend so he wants him to succeed. But at the same time he knows how much he will lose if Dante leaves. Watch the changes in the way Randall talks to Elias during the movie - he’s growing in the awareness that after Dante leaves, Elias will become the guy he hangs out with.

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**Author:** ![Cubsfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Cubsfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cubsfan)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2010, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clerks-vs-clerks-2/543831/23 "2010-06-23T03:56:04Z")

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“My love for you is ticking clock BERSERKER…  
Would you like to suck my cock BERSERKER!!”

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**Author:** ![tr0psn4j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/958977/32.png) [@tr0psn4j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tr0psn4j)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2010, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clerks-vs-clerks-2/543831/24 "2010-06-23T03:57:22Z")

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> [@Cubsfan](#):
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> “My love for you is ticking clock BERSERKER…  
> Would you like to suck my cock BERSERKER!!”

Would you like some making fuck BERSERKER!

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**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2010, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clerks-vs-clerks-2/543831/25 "2010-06-23T04:17:25Z")

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Clerks changed my life. A friend showed it to me when I was maybe 15 or 16. Don’t think I knew independent cinema existed before that.

Clerks 2 was good, but, just timing-wise, it couldn’t have hit me the way the first one did.

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**Author:** ![xizor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xizor/32/102_2.png) [@xizor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xizor)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2010, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clerks-vs-clerks-2/543831/26 "2010-06-23T19:04:48Z")

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> [@tr0psn4j](#):
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> Clerks 2 is my favorite. Rosario Dawson doesn’t hurt the movie one bit. 🙂

Plus she goes ass to mouth :eek:

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**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2010, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clerks-vs-clerks-2/543831/27 "2010-06-23T20:01:39Z")

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> [@tr0psn4j](#):
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> Would you like some making fuck BERSERKER!

‘Did he just say “making fuck”?!’

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**Author:** ![Superfluous\_Parentheses](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8edcca/32.png) [@Superfluous\_Parentheses](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superfluous_Parentheses)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2010, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clerks-vs-clerks-2/543831/28 "2010-06-23T20:15:04Z")

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Seen both, voted in favor of Clerks, just because it seemed to fresh at the time\*. Clerks II was a worthy successor, though.

- I was about 20 when I first saw it.

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**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2010, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clerks-vs-clerks-2/543831/29 "2010-06-23T21:12:37Z")

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I voted for Clerks 2.

I love all of Smith’s movies and own them all signed by Smith. Clerks 2 is my favorite of them all. Clerks was awesome but in 2 we get to see the characters coming to terms with being adults and when the movie came out I was going through the same. Actually I still am going through it even though I am 31. It’s just hard to believe I am actually a grown up and I can’t just fuck off to the go-carts anymore.

There were many memorable scenes.

-The two guys trying to buy weed from Jay even though he is clean now and Jay telling the story of being in rehab. Which I thought was cool as it referenced all the shit Jay went through. “There’s lots of weird shit in the bible. Like did you know Jesus was a jew?”

-“Eat Pussy” spray painted on the wall and Jay saying, “Oh we do.”

-Elias explaining to Randall how the transformers were not blasphemous.

-Porch monkey. “It’s ok I’m taking it back.”

-“Hey twelve-step!” and Jay looking up confused “Lord?”

-The ABC dance number.

-Kinky Kelley and the stud and Elias jerking it while apologizing to Jesus.

-“I miss my donkey.” And Jay offering up to loan the money to Dante and Randall for the Quick Stop refencing all the money they made off the movie rights from JaSBSB.

The only thing I did not like is Jennifer. I know Kevin thinks she is sexy but to me she is way too skinny and I don’t think she can act very well.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2010, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clerks-vs-clerks-2/543831/30 "2010-06-23T21:42:00Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Clerks changed my life. A friend showed it to me when I was maybe 15 or 16. Don’t think I knew independent cinema existed before that.
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> Clerks 2 was good, but, just timing-wise, it couldn’t have hit me the way the first one did.

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> Seen both, voted in favor of Clerks, just because it seemed to fresh at the time\*. Clerks II was a worthy successor, though.
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> - I was about 20 when I first saw it.

Maybe this is part of the reason why I preferred _Clerks II_. I wasn’t 15 or 20 when I saw _Clerks_ - it came out when I was 33. I saw it and my general impression was “another guy trying to get some indie street cred by making a cheap looking black and white movie”. In other words, another _She’s Gotta Have It_ or _Stranger Than Paradise_ or _The Last Picture Show_ or _Night of the Living Dead_ or _Dementia 13_ or _Who’s That Knocking On My Door_ or _Carnival of Souls_ or _Multiple Maniacs_ or _Eraserhead_ or a dozen others. And it didn’t help that his second movies was _Mallrats_, which I felt confirmed my first impression that Smith was okay but nothing special. It wasn’t until _Chasing Amy_ and _Dogma_ that I realized Smith had some genuine talent.

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**Author:** ![Superfluous\_Parentheses](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8edcca/32.png) [@Superfluous\_Parentheses](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superfluous_Parentheses)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2010, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clerks-vs-clerks-2/543831/31 "2010-06-23T21:54:28Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> Maybe this is part of the reason why I preferred _Clerks II_. I wasn’t 15 or 20 when I saw _Clerks_ - it came out when I was 33. I saw it and my general impression was “another guy trying to get some indie street cred by making a cheap looking black and white movie”. In other words, another _She’s Gotta Have It_ or _Stranger Than Paradise_ or _The Last Picture Show_ or _Night of the Living Dead_ or _Dementia 13_ or _Who’s That Knocking On My Door_ or _Carnival of Souls_ or _Multiple Maniacs_ or _Eraserhead_ or a dozen others. And it didn’t help that his second movies was _Mallrats_, which I felt confirmed my first impression that Smith was okay but nothing special. It wasn’t until _Chasing Amy_ and _Dogma_ that I realized Smith had some genuine talent.

I gotta say I liked _She’s Gotta Have It_, _Carnival of Souls_ and _Chasing Amy_ too, and _Dogma_ was just funny. But Clerks really had this feel of late adolescence that was genuine, fun, angry and introspective at the same time and it did connect with me at the time (as did _She’s Gotta Have It_).

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**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2010, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clerks-vs-clerks-2/543831/32 "2010-06-23T22:14:33Z")

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“Thought both were good but Clerks is better.”

Though the rooftop scene with Rosario Dawson is pretty sweet.

I didn’t like Jason Lee’s character so much since he was already set up as a protagonist in Mallrats, he could have been Brodie. Plus he had that Earl Mustache, if I recall. That thing is pretty awesome on Earl, but should not be seen anywhere else.

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