# Cleveland Browns turnaround bandwagon **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [September 5, 2018, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-browns-turnaround-bandwagon/820813 "2018-09-05T17:53:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2018, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-browns-turnaround-bandwagon/820813/181 "2018-11-18T19:29:02Z")
[Denial of Rice thing](https://twitter.com/ByNateUlrich/status/1064211024306466816?) I think this may have been some sort of bye week trolling by John Dorsey to entertain himself. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2018, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-browns-turnaround-bandwagon/820813/182 "2018-11-18T20:07:27Z")
> [@garygnu](#): > > I think she’s fully qualified for a front office position. A head coaching interview would be a stoopid stunt. I was thinking the same thing. She has administrative experience in college sports but coaching is another matter. ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2018, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-browns-turnaround-bandwagon/820813/183 "2018-11-25T19:29:16Z")
I know it’s just the Bungles, but 28-0 is a monster score for the Browns right now. ---
**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2018, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-browns-turnaround-bandwagon/820813/184 "2018-11-25T23:20:11Z")
They certainly did prove that the Bengals weren’t going to continue the streak, even by hiring the Browns’ former coach. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Chessic\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7c8e57/32.png) [@Chessic\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chessic_Sense)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2018, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-browns-turnaround-bandwagon/820813/185 "2018-11-25T23:55:39Z")
They’ve been talking about hiring Condi as the NFL commish for [years](https://www.businessinsider.com/support-is-growing-for-condoleezza-rice-as-nfl-commissioner-2014-9) and [years](https://slate.com/human-interest/2013/10/condoleezza-rice-is-ridiculously-overqualified-to-serve-on-the-college-football-playoff-committee.html). And she’s a [Browns](http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000050894/article/condoleezza-rice-stars-in-new-nfl-apparel-blitz)[fan](https://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2010/10/condoleezza_rice_diplomatic_in.html). It’s a natural fit. ---
**Author:** ![Fugazi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f08c70/32.png) [@Fugazi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fugazi)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2018, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-browns-turnaround-bandwagon/820813/186 "2018-11-26T00:56:53Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > Well that was really good to see. Seems like the team was invigorated and the playcalling was pretty creative. The game wasn’t even as close as the score. If they come out of the bye firing on all cylinders like that it would reflect really badly on the previous coaching. I think what you said here has gone a long way to being proved. Especially with their old HC a member of the coaching staff of the other team. ---
**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2018, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-browns-turnaround-bandwagon/820813/187 "2018-11-26T21:37:12Z")
Two touchdowns from Nick Chubb. This, folks, is why I was so delighted to when the Browns drafted him; I’ve even watching him for four years at Georgia, and knew what a playmaker he is. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2018, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-browns-turnaround-bandwagon/820813/188 "2018-11-27T19:14:46Z")
The Browns have some good young talent. With the right coaching I could see them having a winning season next year and maybe a playoff appearance in a year or two if they build around Mayfield and Chubb. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2018, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-browns-turnaround-bandwagon/820813/189 "2018-11-27T19:52:21Z")
Seems to me the Browns really only need a couple more weapons for Mayfield to throw to…a true legit #1 WR and maybe a badass TE. Is their oline any good since Thomas retired? ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2018, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-browns-turnaround-bandwagon/820813/190 "2018-11-27T21:18:02Z")
Interior is fine, tackles need work although have been improved lately. I wonder if they could get a legit #1 WR by not trading him for scraps a couple of months ago. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2018, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-browns-turnaround-bandwagon/820813/191 "2018-11-27T23:29:41Z")
> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#): > > Seems to me the Browns really only need a couple more weapons for Mayfield to throw to…a true legit #1 WR and maybe a badass TE. Is their oline any good since Thomas retired? Njoku is infuriatingly inconsistent so far, but he shows flashes of true brilliance. If I were in charge I’d stand pat at TE next year and reassess during the 2020 draft. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2018, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-browns-turnaround-bandwagon/820813/192 "2018-11-27T23:31:45Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > Interior is fine, tackles need work although have been improved lately. > > I wonder if they could get a legit #1 WR by not trading him for scraps a couple of months ago. Well, yeah. I know you didn’t like trading Gordon away. And of course, it isn’t like elite WR talent like the very best have grows on trees. Which of course is why they put up with him for so long. That whole thing did seem odd, timing-wise. You put up with _all of that_ only to trade him for a bag of snowglobes and footballs _now_? Makes me wonder if the stories about Gordon being habitually late to meetings or not bothering to show up are true. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2018, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-browns-turnaround-bandwagon/820813/193 "2018-11-27T23:33:27Z")
And that is why I love AJ Green. Other than the blowup with Jalen Ramsey, he’s been nothing but the consummate professional. And he’s consistently very, very good, and doesn’t celebrate. A quick shoulder shake is usually all the emotion you get out of that guy. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2018, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-browns-turnaround-bandwagon/820813/194 "2018-11-29T23:11:46Z")
Apparently Baker Mayfield has free reign to say dumb things, because he’s The Man, and Browns’ offensive coordinator Freddie Kitchens [“has his back”](http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/25410227/cleveland-browns-oc-freddie-kitchens-supports-baker-mayfield-statements-hue-jackson). Freddie, [this song](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsqRva-_VbI)’s for you. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2018, 8:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-browns-turnaround-bandwagon/820813/195 "2018-12-03T08:37:53Z")
Well, it was a long shot to run the table and have a shot at the playoffs. After Mayfield had a poor first half, he responded by going 350 yards on 24-30 in the second half, which is promising in terms of mental fortitude and correcting your own mistakes. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2018, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-browns-turnaround-bandwagon/820813/196 "2018-12-03T15:44:50Z")
Don’t be so down. The Browns still have a good shot at finishing 3rd in the division. My team just blows donkey dorks. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2018, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-browns-turnaround-bandwagon/820813/197 "2018-12-03T16:52:51Z")
Hmm… McCarthy is now unemployed, do you think he could take over the reins for the Browns? ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2018, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-browns-turnaround-bandwagon/820813/198 "2018-12-03T17:11:48Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > Hmm… McCarthy is now unemployed, do you think he could take over the reins for the Browns? Hey, don’t take my head coach! Here, have Hue Jackson back! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2018, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-browns-turnaround-bandwagon/820813/199 "2018-12-03T19:46:24Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > Hmm… McCarthy is now unemployed, do you think he could take over the reins for the Browns? Not that I generally put much (if any) stock in what the talking heads on NFL pre-game and post-game shows say, but that was the topic of conversation on the Fox post-game show last night, which went to air just as the McCarthy news broke. They pointed out that Dorsey had been in the Packers’ front office (Director of College Scouting, then Director of Football Operations) for much of McCarthy’s time in Green Bay. I have no idea how close the two of them actually are, however. ---
**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2018, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-browns-turnaround-bandwagon/820813/200 "2018-12-03T20:03:38Z")
Would you actually want him? Reportedly, Rodgers can’t stand him. That’s not a good sign that he’s the guy you want to be in charge of your new franchise QB in Cleveland. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-browns-turnaround-bandwagon/820813.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-browns-turnaround-bandwagon/820813.md?page=11)