# Cleveland Browns turnaround bandwagon **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [September 5, 2018, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-browns-turnaround-bandwagon/820813 "2018-09-05T17:53:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Fugazi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f08c70/32.png) [@Fugazi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fugazi)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-browns-turnaround-bandwagon/820813/41 "2018-09-09T23:43:38Z")
Heard this stat. Since the Browns came back into the league in 1999, teams with a +5 turnover margin have gone 132-4-1. Of those 5 non-wins the Browns have 2 of the losses, and the tie. Only the Browns could accomplish such a feat. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2018, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-browns-turnaround-bandwagon/820813/42 "2018-09-09T23:54:37Z")
[quote=“Hamlet, post:5, topic:820813”] > [@EllisDee](#): > > Meanwhile, both Browns opponents I started (Big Ben, Steelers DEF) solidly underperformed, with Ben scoring 10 to his projected 18. I have the Fat-Faced Fuck as my QB too. 3 INT, 4 Sacks, and 2 lost fumbles. I might have to trade him for Blake Bortles. If my QB is going to suck anyway, I’d prefer to have someone who doesn’t instill an overwhelming urge to punch him in the face. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-browns-turnaround-bandwagon/820813/43 "2018-09-10T00:35:08Z")
> [@Omniscient](#): > > So, I’ll go on record as the dissenter. The Browns will improve to whopping 3-13 this year. Thus is now literally impossible to achieve. On a side note, my autocorrect wanted to change Tyrod into Turd. Even my phone is rooting against the Browns!!! ---
**Author:** ![CastletonSnob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7ea924/32.png) [@CastletonSnob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CastletonSnob)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-browns-turnaround-bandwagon/820813/44 "2018-09-10T02:13:03Z")
What are the chances of the Browns going 0-15-1? ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-browns-turnaround-bandwagon/820813/45 "2018-09-10T02:22:59Z")
> [@CastletonSnob](#): > > What are the chances of the Browns going 0-15-1? Pretty low. They are a much better team than they were last year. ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-browns-turnaround-bandwagon/820813/46 "2018-09-10T02:25:12Z")
Anyone else rooting for a 0-0-16 season now? ---
**Author:** ![MadTheSwine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MadTheSwine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MadTheSwine)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-browns-turnaround-bandwagon/820813/47 "2018-09-10T02:38:01Z")
> [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](#): > > but 6-7 wins is very realistic. > > One of them won’t be this Sunday, though. Good call! ---
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-browns-turnaround-bandwagon/820813/48 "2018-09-10T03:45:53Z")
> [@asterion](#): > > Anyone else rooting for a 0-0-16 season now? That’s equivalent to 8-8, and a possible playoff berth if the rest of the division stinks it up, yes? In that case, bring on the ties! ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-browns-turnaround-bandwagon/820813/49 "2018-09-10T04:40:33Z")
> [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](#): > > I hate the Browns because I’m a Steelers fan and it’s what we do. > > I think 8-8 is a little on the optimistic side, but 6-7 wins is very realistic. > > One of them won’t be this Sunday, though. Hey, look at that, the passive tense of your prediction ended up making it true. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-browns-turnaround-bandwagon/820813/50 "2018-09-10T04:43:28Z")
I saw a statistic that 0-0-1 is the best start Cleveland has had since 2004?! ---
**Author:** ![zamboniracer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9a140/32.png) [@zamboniracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zamboniracer)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-browns-turnaround-bandwagon/820813/51 "2018-09-10T12:35:48Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > Which is why you root for a team that is community owned rather some rich fucker. I sure wish that was an option for every city that isn’t in Green Bay, WI. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-browns-turnaround-bandwagon/820813/52 "2018-09-10T12:46:28Z")
> [@kunilou](#): > > I’m just upset that the St. Louis Rams had the worst three-season record at 6-42, until the Browns came along with their 4-44 steamroller. > > St. Louis lost its team. The least you could have done was leave us with our records. I am absolutely blown away that the Lions didn’t hold that record. ---
**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2018, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-browns-turnaround-bandwagon/820813/53 "2018-09-10T13:46:59Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > Which is why you root for a team that is community owned rather some rich fucker. Which is why, despite having no connection to Green Bay, I root for the Packers over everybody except Cleveland. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-browns-turnaround-bandwagon/820813/54 "2018-09-11T01:27:15Z")
Feel okay about this one. 0-16 meets 3-13, and gets a tie. Steelers fans definitely feel like that’s a loss, so it should feel like a win of sorts to me, right? Denzel Ward got absolutely no preseason and very little draft hype but he was incredible for his first game. Two picks, some great coverage plays, just really impressive. I was surprised when they drafted him because I hardly heard a peep during the pre-draft process, but he’s looking like a hit. ---
**Author:** ![Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a183cd/32.png) [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barkis_is_Willin)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-browns-turnaround-bandwagon/820813/55 "2018-09-11T18:14:02Z")
Ward did have a great game. I think he got a good amount of hype pre-draft, but maybe that’s because I’m in Central Ohio and you can’t escape Buckeye homerism. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-browns-turnaround-bandwagon/820813/56 "2018-09-11T19:18:55Z")
Somebody said a tie is like kissing your sister. I suppose it’s better than getting beat up by your sister 16 times running, but I worry the Browns are raising expectations too high. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-browns-turnaround-bandwagon/820813/57 "2018-09-11T21:06:51Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Somebody said a tie is like kissing your sister. I suppose it’s better than getting beat up by your sister 16 times running, but I worry the Browns are raising expectations too high. > > Regards, > Shodan The Browns just needed to get rid of Joe Thomas. Nothing but dead weight for his entire career. ---
**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2018, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-browns-turnaround-bandwagon/820813/58 "2018-09-12T03:52:52Z")
> [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](#): > > Ward did have a great game. I think he got a good amount of hype pre-draft, but maybe that’s because I’m in Central Ohio and you can’t escape Buckeye homerism. He’s from my hometown, graduated from my high school. So Ward has been the most important Browns story since before the draft! Woohoo! ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2018, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-browns-turnaround-bandwagon/820813/59 "2018-09-16T01:07:46Z")
Fuck this gay Earth. ---
**Author:** ![CAMJAY77](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5fc32e/32.png) [@CAMJAY77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CAMJAY77)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2018, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-browns-turnaround-bandwagon/820813/60 "2018-09-16T03:13:08Z")
Go Browns1 Was out of the country and didn’t watch Steelers game, and was surprised when I saw the final score. Wasn’t expecting them to keep it so close. They have much more talent now but many believe the HC is terrible and they won’t become a good team as long as he is there. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-browns-turnaround-bandwagon/820813.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-browns-turnaround-bandwagon/820813.md?page=4)