# Cleveland Browns turnaround bandwagon

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-browns-turnaround-bandwagon/820813>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [September 5, 2018, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-browns-turnaround-bandwagon/820813 "2018-09-05T17:53:43Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2018, 11:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-browns-turnaround-bandwagon/820813/61 "2018-09-16T11:24:59Z")

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Josh Gordon is going to be released on Monday.

Cite: [Josh Gordon to Be Released or Traded by Browns After 6-Plus Seasons with Team | News, Scores, Highlights, Stats, and Rumors | Bleacher Report](https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2770942-josh-gordon-released-by-browns-after-6-plus-seasons-with-team?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial)

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**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2018, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-browns-turnaround-bandwagon/820813/62 "2018-09-16T14:55:42Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> Fuck this gay Earth.

What? You get rid of Gordon and you get Dez. That’s an upgrade, right?

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**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2018, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-browns-turnaround-bandwagon/820813/63 "2018-09-16T21:22:39Z")

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and most likely their kicker will be gone Monday too.

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2018, 7:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-browns-turnaround-bandwagon/820813/64 "2018-09-17T07:31:11Z")

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**Go Browns! 2 - 0 already. Woot!!!**  
against the spread (sigh)

I feel for the kid but this is the NFL.

“You had one j - o - b.”

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2018, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-browns-turnaround-bandwagon/820813/65 "2018-09-17T12:17:05Z")

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And, apparently exhausted by clawing their way up to mediocrity, the Browns return to form. They looked OK for a while, there. Unfortunately, they can pack more suck into one quarter than most teams can into a whole season.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2018, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-browns-turnaround-bandwagon/820813/66 "2018-09-17T18:02:00Z")

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Why would anyone trade for Gordon after the Browns announced they intend to release him? Wouldn’t it be cheaper to just sign him as a free agent?

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2018, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-browns-turnaround-bandwagon/820813/67 "2018-09-17T18:06:46Z")

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If you trade for him, you get him. If you wait for him to be cut, anyone else can get him.

The question is why you’d want him.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2018, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-browns-turnaround-bandwagon/820813/68 "2018-09-17T18:08:00Z")

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> [@Bijou\_Drains](#):
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> and most likely their kicker will be gone Monday too.

Reports are that they are trying out Blair “Wide Left” Walsh who cost the Vikings a wild card game a couple years ago and who single-handedly cost a couple games last year for Seattle (which led to them missing the playoffs for the first time in years). Look luck with that head case!

> **[Report: Browns to work out Blair Walsh, Cairo Santos](https://247sports.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/Article/Browns-work-out-Blair-Walsh-Cairo-Santos-122016906/)**
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> Two kickers are headed to Cleveland.

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**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2018, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-browns-turnaround-bandwagon/820813/69 "2018-09-17T19:31:33Z")

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[Pats reportedly working on a trade for Gordon](https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/patriots-reportedly-closing-in-on-blockbuster-trade-to-land-josh-gordon-from-browns/).

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**Author:** ![Hi\_Neighbor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hi_neighbor/32/494_2.png) [@Hi\_Neighbor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hi_Neighbor)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2018, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-browns-turnaround-bandwagon/820813/70 "2018-09-17T19:33:08Z")

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The Pats are known for giving players second chances. They also known for immediately moving on when those players do not live up to their expectations. It could be a very short marriage.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2018, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-browns-turnaround-bandwagon/820813/71 "2018-09-17T20:15:59Z")

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I’d rather have Dez Bryant.

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2018, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-browns-turnaround-bandwagon/820813/72 "2018-09-17T21:07:45Z")

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> [@Hi\_Neighbor](#):
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> The Pats are known for giving players second chances. They also known for immediately moving on when those players do not live up to their expectations. It could be a very short marriage.

Maybe Belichick needs a hook-up for weed?

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2018, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-browns-turnaround-bandwagon/820813/73 "2018-09-17T21:12:48Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> I’d rather have Dez Bryant.

Isn’t recreational marijuana legal in Massachusetts?

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**Author:** ![DSYoungEsq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2018, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-browns-turnaround-bandwagon/820813/74 "2018-09-17T22:30:03Z")

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Gordon has indeed been traded to the Pats.

Browns have signed Rod Streater, ex of the Raiders and Niners, who was rejected by the Bills after playing with them in pre-season. Good pickup there. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2018, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-browns-turnaround-bandwagon/820813/75 "2018-09-20T21:25:13Z")

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I’ve decided to simply skip over posting about the Josh Gordon thing.

JETS GONNA GET WRECKED

SAM DARNOLD GON DIE

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**Author:** ![Gray\_Ghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c0e974/32.png) [@Gray\_Ghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gray_Ghost)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2018, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-browns-turnaround-bandwagon/820813/76 "2018-09-21T02:46:26Z")

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Congratulations to everyone who had Baker Mayfield in the first half of Game 3 in the replacement sweepstakes.

The Browns are feisty, I’ll give them that. I would have happily taken the Jets and laid three.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2018, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-browns-turnaround-bandwagon/820813/77 "2018-09-21T02:49:22Z")

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I don’t know if Taylor was told to fake an injury, but he just wasn’t getting the job done, and you see the whole team light up when Mayfield came in.

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**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2018, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-browns-turnaround-bandwagon/820813/78 "2018-09-21T03:08:49Z")

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Geeze, doesn’t anyone on the Browns want to catch a ball?

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**Author:** ![drm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a88e57/32.png) [@drm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drm)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2018, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-browns-turnaround-bandwagon/820813/79 "2018-09-21T03:24:02Z")

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I’m not sure what you can tell about a player in one half against the Jets, but there have been worse starts, especially for Browns rookie quarterbacks.

I have to admit, he seems confident, accurate, has a cannon, and is kind of elusive. Not too bad of a combo, really. Im interested to see how things go when a bunch of tape exists.

So if Hue Jackson and the Browns pull out this victory, can we expect a 10 year extension worth about 15 million/year?

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**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2018, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-browns-turnaround-bandwagon/820813/80 "2018-09-21T03:37:04Z")

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Sheesh, even Baker Mayfield is taking a knee, and in his first start! This is outta control.  
Who’da’thunk the Browns would finally get the win thanks to a rookie #1 pick quarterback playing almost flawlessly and a stout defense?

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