# Cleveland Indians considering a name change \[Edit: It's "Guardians"\]

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-indians-considering-a-name-change-edit-its-guardians/914323>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** baseball-mlb\
**Created:** [July 4, 2020, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-indians-considering-a-name-change-edit-its-guardians/914323 "2020-07-04T20:53:46Z")\
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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 7:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-indians-considering-a-name-change-edit-its-guardians/914323/282 "2020-12-14T07:16:37Z")

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Got it. And the teepee is especially cringeworthy.

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**Author:** ![Mark\_Finn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/34f0e0/32.png) [@Mark\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mark_Finn)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-indians-considering-a-name-change-edit-its-guardians/914323/283 "2020-12-14T12:35:28Z")

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The Cleveland Grovers? "-)

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**Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-indians-considering-a-name-change-edit-its-guardians/914323/284 "2020-12-14T13:34:18Z")

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> [@Pork\_Rind](#):
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> [This article](https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/football-team/new-name-washington-football-team-definitely-running-stay) from NBC Sports says the name is in the running to become permanent.

Interesting, but I can’t see that happening. It would be death to merchandise sales.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-indians-considering-a-name-change-edit-its-guardians/914323/285 "2020-12-14T14:14:24Z")

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> [@Mark\_Finn](#):
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> The Cleveland Grovers? "-)

Make it “Super Grovers” and you’re onto something.

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**Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-indians-considering-a-name-change-edit-its-guardians/914323/286 "2020-12-14T15:13:42Z")

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I don’t see Braves name surviving after this. DC is probably not going to have a new name in 2021 from what I read.

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**Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-indians-considering-a-name-change-edit-its-guardians/914323/287 "2020-12-14T15:25:21Z")

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> [@Bijou\_Drains](#):
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> I don’t see Braves name surviving after this.

The Braves appear to be stepping up their reach out to the Native American communities in North Georgia - probably with this in mind. In addition, the Braves fanbase is faaaar more conservative than Cleveland’s, which is probably going to help with delaying it. Though the Braves have taken steps to try to eliminate the Chop (a lot of fans don’t like it though).

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-indians-considering-a-name-change-edit-its-guardians/914323/288 "2020-12-14T15:30:57Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> What about the Cleveland Rocks?

Cleveland Rocs. I mean, c’mon: huge bad-ass birds of prey. Can’t get any better than that.

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**Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-indians-considering-a-name-change-edit-its-guardians/914323/289 "2020-12-14T15:42:24Z")

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Excellent!

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**Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-indians-considering-a-name-change-edit-its-guardians/914323/290 "2020-12-14T15:59:21Z")

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And yet no one is pressing the Mumbai Indians to change _their_ name. There’s just no justice in this world.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-indians-considering-a-name-change-edit-its-guardians/914323/291 "2020-12-14T18:50:56Z")

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The Houston Texans are next, followed immediately by the Montreal Canadiens.

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**Post date:** [December 14, 2020, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-indians-considering-a-name-change-edit-its-guardians/914323/292 "2020-12-14T19:02:32Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> And yet no one is pressing the Mumbai Indians to change _their_ name.

And nobody seems to care about the feelings of Scandinavian pillagers, or marauding buccaneers. These too are clearly minority groups struggling with negative stereotypes, despite Disney’s efforts.

[https://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/22842s/im\_not\_sure\_disney\_understands\_this\_concept\_very/](https://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/22842s/im_not_sure_disney_understands_this_concept_very/)

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**Post date:** [December 15, 2020, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-indians-considering-a-name-change-edit-its-guardians/914323/293 "2020-12-15T02:00:43Z")

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The Cleveland Pakistanis.

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**Post date:** [December 15, 2020, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-indians-considering-a-name-change-edit-its-guardians/914323/294 "2020-12-15T02:22:06Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> And yet no one is pressing the Mumbai Indians to change _their_ name. There’s just no justice in this world.

But the earlier move from the Bombay Punkawallahs was a liberal step in anti-colonialism.

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**Post date:** [December 15, 2020, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-indians-considering-a-name-change-edit-its-guardians/914323/295 "2020-12-15T04:59:11Z")

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The Caucasians, obviously. There’s already merchandise.

[http://www.shelflifeclothing.com/caucasians.html](http://www.shelflifeclothing.com/caucasians.html)

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**Post date:** [July 23, 2021, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-indians-considering-a-name-change-edit-its-guardians/914323/296 "2021-07-23T14:32:41Z")

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It’s official: Welcome to the Cleveland Guardians!

> **[Cleveland Guardians: Baseball team announces new nickname as it moves away...](https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/cleveland-guardians-baseball-team-announces-new-nickname-as-it-moves-away-from-native-american-imagery/)**
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> Cleveland has is moving away from their current nickname after the 2021 season

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**Post date:** [July 23, 2021, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-indians-considering-a-name-change-edit-its-guardians/914323/297 "2021-07-23T15:09:55Z")

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Fail.

The correct answer was “Spiders”.

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**Post date:** [July 23, 2021, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-indians-considering-a-name-change-edit-its-guardians/914323/298 "2021-07-23T15:14:01Z")

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Did they do it just to keep a name that ends in “ians”?

Actually, the Cleveland Ians isn’t bad. Get a whole roster of players named “Ian”–Ian Kinsler, Ian Desmond. Maybe Chris Ianetta…

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**Post date:** [July 23, 2021, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-indians-considering-a-name-change-edit-its-guardians/914323/299 "2021-07-23T15:19:33Z")

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Yeah I noticed that too. Think they’re just going to iron-on the “Guar” over the “In” on the uniforms?

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**Post date:** [July 23, 2021, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-indians-considering-a-name-change-edit-its-guardians/914323/300 "2021-07-23T15:21:00Z")

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> [@Roger\_That](#):
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> Actually, the Cleveland Ians isn’t bad. Get a whole roster of players named “Ian”–Ian Kinsler, Ian Desmond. Maybe Chris Ianetta…

Named after the coolest Ian ever!

[![](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/lotr/images/e/e7/Gandalf_the_Grey.jpg) ](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/lotr/images/e/e7/Gandalf_the_Grey.jpg)

[![](https://comic-watch.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/magneto1.jpg) ](https://comic-watch.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/magneto1.jpg)

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**Post date:** [July 23, 2021, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-indians-considering-a-name-change-edit-its-guardians/914323/301 "2021-07-23T15:21:50Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> Fail.
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> The correct answer was “Spiders”.

+1000

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