# Cleveland Indians considering a name change \[Edit: It's "Guardians"\]
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-indians-considering-a-name-change-edit-its-guardians/914323
**Category:** The Game Room
**Tags:** baseball-mlb
**Created:** [July 4, 2020, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-indians-considering-a-name-change-edit-its-guardians/914323 "2020-07-04T20:53:46Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)
#### Post date: [July 14, 2020, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-indians-considering-a-name-change-edit-its-guardians/914323/41 "2020-07-14T17:41:54Z")
It’s a feature. It allows the end user to run the “double play” subroutine.
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### Author:  [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Winston_OBoogie)
#### Post date: [July 14, 2020, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-indians-considering-a-name-change-edit-its-guardians/914323/42 "2020-07-14T17:45:42Z")
Remember - for the Cleveland Software Engineers, Quality is Job 1.1
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### Author:  [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)
#### Post date: [July 15, 2020, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-indians-considering-a-name-change-edit-its-guardians/914323/43 "2020-07-15T00:25:33Z")
> [@RickJay](#):
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> The Atlanta Braves have a team nickname that’s actually much LESS racist and problematic - “Brave” is a military role, not an ethnicity, and is logically equivalent to “Knights” or “Marines” - but it results in racist horseshit like the Tomahawk Chop.
Speaking of which:
[https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/13/us/atlanta-braves-name-tomahawk-chop-trnd/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/13/us/atlanta-braves-name-tomahawk-chop-trnd/index.html)
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### Author:  [@NetTrekker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NetTrekker)
#### Post date: [July 17, 2020, 12:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-indians-considering-a-name-change-edit-its-guardians/914323/44 "2020-07-17T12:07:54Z")
A longtime nickname among Cleveland fans has been The Tribe, which i think would be better but still not a clean break and still problematic as regards team logos.
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### Author:  [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)
#### Post date: [July 17, 2020, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-indians-considering-a-name-change-edit-its-guardians/914323/45 "2020-07-17T13:18:52Z")
Another vote for the Cleveland Spiders.
> **[It's time to bring back the Cleveland Spiders (who really weren't that bad,...](https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/29475406/bring-back-cleveland-spiders-really-bad-know)**
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> When the Indians change their name, they can right a historical wrong, tap into merchandising gold and be ultracool with one broad stroke.
The \_\_\_ Jews is a bad team name. The “Fighting Jews”, on the other hand…🙂
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### Author:  [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)
#### Post date: [July 17, 2020, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-indians-considering-a-name-change-edit-its-guardians/914323/46 "2020-07-17T14:14:58Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> The \_\_\_ Jews is a bad team name. The “Fighting Jews”, on the other hand…🙂
Rumblin’ Rabbis?
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### Author:  [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)
#### Post date: [July 17, 2020, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-indians-considering-a-name-change-edit-its-guardians/914323/47 "2020-07-17T14:18:05Z")
> [@RickJay](#):
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> > [@Jackmannii](#):
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> > The \_\_\_ Jews is a bad team name. The “Fighting Jews”, on the other hand…🙂
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> Rumblin’ Rabbis? -
After a disastrous first season, “The Challah will rise again.”
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### Author:  [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)
#### Post date: [July 17, 2020, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-indians-considering-a-name-change-edit-its-guardians/914323/48 "2020-07-17T14:18:24Z")
> [@Jeff\_Lichtman](#):
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> If they were to rename the team the Cleveland Software Engineers it wouldn’t bother me in the slightest. If they renamed them the Cleveland Jews it would infuriate me.
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> Do you not see the difference between a job and an ethnicity?
Exactly. I’d like to see an answer to this question.
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### Author:  [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)
#### Post date: [July 17, 2020, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-indians-considering-a-name-change-edit-its-guardians/914323/49 "2020-07-17T14:24:53Z")
> [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](#):
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> If a Cleveland Software Engineer misshandles a grounder, it’s a “bug” instead of an “error”. Howsat?
It’s not a bug, it was in the bleachers.
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### Author:  [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)
#### Post date: [July 17, 2020, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-indians-considering-a-name-change-edit-its-guardians/914323/50 "2020-07-17T16:14:17Z")
> [@RickJay](#):
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> > [@Jackmannii](#):
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> > The \_\_\_ Jews is a bad team name. The “Fighting Jews”, on the other hand…🙂
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> Rumblin’ Rabbis?
Battlin’ Bubbes?
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### Author:  [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)
#### Post date: [July 18, 2020, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-indians-considering-a-name-change-edit-its-guardians/914323/51 "2020-07-18T15:30:50Z")
> [@RickJay](#):
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> Apparently Cleveland Guardians is also a popular choice, because of statues called that.
Cleveland does have a set of iconic statues that are officially called “Guardians” (specifically, the [Guardians of Transportation](https://www.roadsideamerica.com/tip/35444)), and everyone recognizes them, but nobody ever calls them that. If Clevelanders ever have need to refer to them, they’re “those things on the Lorain-Carnegie Bridge” (the bridge itself is also never called by its official name, the “Hope Memorial Bridge”).
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### Author:  [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)
#### Post date: [July 19, 2020, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-indians-considering-a-name-change-edit-its-guardians/914323/52 "2020-07-19T17:42:31Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Battlin’ Bubbes?
Mighty Mensches
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### Author:  [@DreamsOfACheetah](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DreamsOfACheetah)
#### Post date: [September 20, 2020, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-indians-considering-a-name-change-edit-its-guardians/914323/53 "2020-09-20T03:11:21Z")
How about the Flaming Rivers?
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### Author:  [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)
#### Post date: [September 20, 2020, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-indians-considering-a-name-change-edit-its-guardians/914323/54 "2020-09-20T05:22:55Z")
That logo is sick good. But considering how widespread arachnophobia is in society, I’m not sure Spiders is going to have a wide fan following.
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### Author:  [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)
#### Post date: [September 20, 2020, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-indians-considering-a-name-change-edit-its-guardians/914323/55 "2020-09-20T13:29:29Z")
That’s part of what makes it good. Sports teams are supposed to be named after something the other guys fear. That’s why so many are predatory animals.
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### Author:  [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)
#### Post date: [September 20, 2020, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-indians-considering-a-name-change-edit-its-guardians/914323/56 "2020-09-20T13:38:22Z")
> [@Chronos](#):
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> That’s part of what makes it good. Sports teams are supposed to be named after something the other guys fear. That’s why so many are predatory animals. -
Dodgers would just avoid 'em.
Giants are too big to be bothered.
Rockies are too hard to be bitten.
Blue Jays, Orioles and Cardinals eat spiders.
Astros and Angels are above it all.
Nothing bothers a Ranger.
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### Author:  [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)
#### Post date: [September 20, 2020, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-indians-considering-a-name-change-edit-its-guardians/914323/57 "2020-09-20T14:39:28Z")
Spiders catch flies.
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### Author:  [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)
#### Post date: [September 20, 2020, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-indians-considering-a-name-change-edit-its-guardians/914323/58 "2020-09-20T14:53:56Z")
They also lay eggs.
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### Author:  [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)
#### Post date: [September 20, 2020, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-indians-considering-a-name-change-edit-its-guardians/914323/59 "2020-09-20T14:58:47Z")
So do orioles, cardinals, and diamondbacks.
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### Author:  [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)
#### Post date: [September 20, 2020, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-indians-considering-a-name-change-edit-its-guardians/914323/60 "2020-09-20T15:17:52Z")
I have no rejoinder for that.
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