# Cleveland Indians remove Chief Wahoo logo by 2019

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-indians-remove-chief-wahoo-logo-by-2019/807754>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [January 29, 2018, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-indians-remove-chief-wahoo-logo-by-2019/807754 "2018-01-29T19:06:05Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 10\
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**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2018, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-indians-remove-chief-wahoo-logo-by-2019/807754/61 "2018-01-31T17:16:58Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> Their logo is no worse than the Chicago Blackhawks’ one. The name, however …

Is it that you find the Blackhawks’ logo to also be a disrespectful/grotesque cartoon caricature, or is it that you find Chief Wahoo to be a realistic depiction of a Native American face?

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2018, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-indians-remove-chief-wahoo-logo-by-2019/807754/62 "2018-01-31T17:20:51Z")

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> [@ZipperJJ](#):
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> Is it that you find the Blackhawks’ logo to also be a disrespectful/grotesque cartoon caricature, or is it that you find Chief Wahoo to be a realistic depiction of a Native American face?

I think he was comparing the Redskin logo to the Blackhawk logo. Not to Chief Wahoo.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2018, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-indians-remove-chief-wahoo-logo-by-2019/807754/63 "2018-01-31T17:39:43Z")

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That’s it. The two logos are very similar.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2018, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-indians-remove-chief-wahoo-logo-by-2019/807754/64 "2018-02-01T04:12:43Z")

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I’d love to see the Washington Warriors with their logo the same.

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**Author:** ![glowacks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/glowacks/32/5548_2.png) [@glowacks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glowacks)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2018, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-indians-remove-chief-wahoo-logo-by-2019/807754/65 "2018-02-25T22:28:10Z")

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I guess it’s not totally on topic, but I’m surprised no one else has linked [http://www.shelflifeclothing.com/shirtpages/caucasians.html](http://www.shelflifeclothing.com/shirtpages/caucasians.html) yet.

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**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2018, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-indians-remove-chief-wahoo-logo-by-2019/807754/66 "2018-02-25T22:55:32Z")

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Eh, that’s the sort of thing that people post trying to make a point about how it would be offensive, and people reply “I’m a white guy and I think that’s hilarious! Native Americans should lighten up!”

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2018, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-indians-remove-chief-wahoo-logo-by-2019/807754/67 "2018-02-25T23:46:57Z")

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Being a Pirates fan who hates Cleveland, butthurt Indians fans make me laugh all the more.

> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> Their logo is no worse than the Chicago Blackhawks’ one. The name, however …

For the Blackhawks, that would actually be very easy to solve – just change the logo to an [actual hawk](http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/chicago-blackhawks-logo-ghislain-picard-1.3305487?cmp=abfb). (Technically, they weren’t directly [named](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Blackhawks_name_and_logo_controversy) for Blackhawk, but for the original owner’s military regiment from WWI)

A First Nations artist came up with a really [badass logo](https://indiancountrymedianetwork.com/culture/sports/culturally-appropriate-chicago-blackhawks-logo-by-first-nations-artist-goes-viral/), too.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2018, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-indians-remove-chief-wahoo-logo-by-2019/807754/68 "2018-02-26T01:37:47Z")

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Completely aside from the question of cultural sensitivity, that is certainly an awesome logo.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2018, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-indians-remove-chief-wahoo-logo-by-2019/807754/69 "2018-02-26T17:24:34Z")

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Agreed, I’d buy clothing with that logo.

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**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2018, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cleveland-indians-remove-chief-wahoo-logo-by-2019/807754/70 "2018-02-26T18:19:05Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> I’d love to see the Washington Warriors with their logo the same.

I always preferred the 60s “spear” helmets.

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