Global thermonuclear war, followed by a zombie apocalypse.
And Paul R. Ehrlich, who is an ardent AGW believer, claimed that overpopulation was going to lead to mass starvation in the U.S. in the 1970s. Ehrlich is a die hard lefty:
Link.
And John Holdren, you might know of him as he works for President Obama and all, worked with Ehrlich. Holdren stated back in 1969:
Many Democrats are fear mongering, disaster conspirators.
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And thank you for demonstrating to all that you do not pay any attention, several times before in other threads I have reported on how Paul R. Ehrlich and other Malthusians are loopy.
Your point also does not mean much seeing that we are talking about how it is a myth that AGW people that propose solutions to the issue do not talk also about family planning/population control.
this is important of course as the Left environmentalism is filled with the misanthropy, but in fact the only reason for thehumans to deeply care about the climate and the enviornmental changes is that it will be bad for us from our point of view. For the planet and life, we are just a momentary blip that is less damaging than the meteriod strikes that have caused - or the mega volcananoes, etc.
this is not a fully correct observation, the intensive traditional agriculture is more stressing for the fragile soils, more damaging, although the Left likes to romanticise the “small holder farmer”
long term stress on productivity of the land in Sub saharan africa from the over-usage of the fragile and the marginal land for the subsistence or the near subsistence farming is a serious problem and is not a light foot print as it is indeed a driver of the loss of the vegetation and even the desertification or the long term (for people ‘permanent’) degradation of the soil for productive use.
one of the worst things I see in the African context is these soi-disant development people romanticising the small farmers and completely ignoring the economic history of every well developed region in this area.
then the key is to have the technological progress. The demographic transition of course is indeed happening, even in the sub Saharan africa, although it is can be accelerated, but it is not surprising to see it is in the worst places economically that the birth rate is highest.
The earth is far from a phone booth.
You have a strange lack grasp of actual facts. This above is exageration and fiction. It is quite true the global fish stocks are stressed and it is a concern for the human edible fishes, but it is in no way true “90% of the fish are gone out of the oceans”, as the FAO summary data show clearly. [a PDF] - if this were true the eating of fish would be the unattainable luxury…
Similar can be said on the issue of the water, where there is real problems in certain geographic areas but is not true as this statement is made.
of course the real problems are indeed very serious problems, but gross exaggeration only turns them into unsolvable scare stories.
So you make a judgement on your nostalgic memory of a personal experience, the old man cursing against change and the passing of the golden age of his memories of the youth… it is an eternal feature of the human race.
This is not any thing more sophisticated than the misanthropy of the old-man nostalgic against change.
It is it is clear the aesthetic nostalgic statement and not a thing informed by the actual data.
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What?
There is one thing clear, the under pricing of the cost of the water and the collective over extraction of the irrigation waters from the slow replenishing aquifers. The low pricing, usually through the badly conceived governmental schemes leads to wasteful and damaging (the notable is the soil salinization).
this has not a thing to do with “privatization” and in many places the privatization could in fact help greatly as a solution - but not in all of course.
the water of aquifers is the classic problem of the tragedy of the commons.
the water desalinization unless there is some low cost economically efficient methodology with renewable energy is completely irrelevant to the problem of the water stress, for it has no scale to address it. The desalinization is a solution for the direct human consumption and for the niche high value agriculture.
There are indeed the tons of data, data which you ignore or know nothing of in favor of the aesthetic judgement of nostalgia.
Interpret anyway he wants seems to mean “make things up.”
Exactly and when he was living in his golden age memories, it was the peak time of the rapid growth.
There has always been horror and ugliness in the perspective of a human brain which was not itself in the moment pissed off and calling for someone’s head. WWII was indeed horrible, as was the Inquisition, the Holocaust, lynching in America’s south, etcetera, etcetera.
I just think the world, when people were not killing other people where one was looking, was just a lot prettier in the fifties. I find the crowding in a lot of areas today to be ugly.
But aesthetic nostalgia has nothing to do with my consideration that civilization will be in much worse shape when the water gets sucked down to the point of widespread stress. And I feel that almost everybody is either stupid, ignorant, or in denial about the almost certain untoward future effects of overpopulation (yes mostly by the elite 15%). I don’t care if a lot of people here don’t agree with that. That’s the last thing I am going to say about it, unless someone says something particularly fetching that I feel I must respond to.
You sound pretty misanthropic. Well the good thing is billions of others don’t have that self hate.
What state do you live in? Montana is a good place to escape crowds.
Like I said, Malthusians are loopy.
What should fry your noodle is that one big part why Hitler launched his wars of conquest is that they were mostly based on ignoring how technology and trade (even then) were making the need to seek living space a fallacy.
So the nostalgie for your youthful memories. It is not very useful for understanding the world.
It is without doubt the case the slums of the ethnic minorities of the americans in the 1950s and as I have read the rivers that ran in the multi-colors from the severe pollution and the ethnic minority americans exposed severely to the lead pollutions would not have so fond memories of this era.
since you show very little command of substantial data, in fact your nostalgia for the youthful golden memories seem to have almost everything to do with the ideas expressed.
I hoped I could go back and delete the gratuitous epithets I used in my last response, but I didn’t see any way to edit it. So I apologize, at least.
Too late, its already on your permanent record.