Wow, a tiny emissions cut is going to save Florida? Who knew? Is that the IPCC that promised that, or are you trying to copy my style now?
Good to know that you acknowledge that you are saying things with no thought whatsoever.
Again, I do not think congratulating or tacitly approving the inaction and little emissions cuts are things that deserve pride.
Your gross mistake here is to assume the cuts will remain small forever, they are small at the beginning because virtually all that look at the problem do not think going cold turkey is the solution, but deniers like to make that the straw man point so as to make the ones looking for a solution look ridiculous.
In the meantime an economist like Nordhaus was elected president of the American Economic Association in 2014
An expensive, but small solution, does a lot of harm. Politically, once you’ve doubled people’s electric bills, you aren’t going to get them to go with you for the next step. Which is why you should keep your powder dry until you have an idea that actually fixes the problem.
The last thing a family paying double for their electricity wants to hear is that it’s the first step. How much will step 2 cost?
You on the other hand are assuming huge emmission cuts can be made in the long term. That is a huge assumption. When I say cuts I mean economically viable cuts. We all know we can cut emmissions vastly in the short term, but those cuts require us to shut down the economy. Right now the economic viability of future co2 cuts are the great unknown.
No, it is based on what was done before with CFCs, Acid Rain producing emissions and lead in our gasoline.
The ignorance is to assume that a problem brought by our technology can not be solved by controlling the part of it that is causing the problem, or that once the change is done with dedication it will never continue.
And again the strawman, no one seriously recommends to cut emissions vastly in the short term, this say so is made once again in an attempt to ridicule scientists and even well recognised economists.
Please, stop it with the strawman accusations. My use of the words “short term” was unimportant to my main point. My main point was that is it very easy to cut emmissions. It is the economic consequences of such cuts that are not easy to solve. That placing undue hope in only a few relatively untested technologies is not a clever idea.
Using ignorance to continue to ignore the pound of harm that is coming to save pennies is folly.
Weaponized ignorance, solutions are implemented and the issue now is the nonsensical delaying made specially by one party in the United States.
As I have seen in many reports your point of doubling the electric bill came for the netherlands of the posterior of many denier sites, once again, you start with a flawed or mistaken idea your conclusions will be crap, even Republican scientists are either becoming independent or they become more blunt with the Republican nonsense.
As Bickmore (Republican, Conservative scientist from BYU) reported you are relying here on arguments from ignorance, the economy is not bound to be affected as the denier Republicans are telling you.
For all their talk about alarmism coming from the scientists and economists, the real alarmism is in reality coming from the ones claiming that the sky will fall 
if we take of the problem now.
adaher, you could *so *easily choose to be part of the solution, instead of wasting your energies this way. So easily.
Adaher - I think it might be a bit instructive for you to read about Singapore’s water experience
When the push for self sufficiency started - people scoffed.
They said that “the public” would never accept reclaimed water.
Then they complained that desalination (via reverse osmosis) was foolish because it cost something like 5 or more times the price of raw water from a neighbouring state.
Now? Singapore makes big money from selling the technology - their water is safe and secure, and the price has come down hugely - my personal monthly water bill is around $30 - for a family of 5.
China is moving fast and furious in renewables and clean technology. If nothing is done, the US will be left behind.
Furthermore - for as long as the US is doing nothing, both India and China can claim a justification in doing nothing. Once the US starts to act, then more pressure can be placed on others.
The longer you delay - the more abrupt (and thus expensive) solutions are.
I think the phrase goes - don’t let the perfect get in the way of the possible right?
Or if you prefer - don’t let the perfect become the enemy of the good.
All water is reclaimed; every molecule of H2O on this planet has passed through countless living organisms countless times.
Well yeah - but psychologically, the “Newater” we are talking about went directly from the waste pipes to the water treatment plant -
It was a huge controversy here when it was launched - now people don’t give a shit
For someone who wants to prevent the oceans from rising King Canute is pretty much the worst myth to mention. The entire point of that story is that mankind is nothing compared to nature and can’t possibly control it.
Which is false, of course. Even in Canute’s day he could have ordered construction of a dike.
In Russia, dikes are in favor of King Cnut!
This isn’t correct. Water molecules are being split constantly in plants and new water molecules are formed as part of the Electron Transport Chain. It makes sense that there would be a mechanism to create new water molecules as so many of them are destroyed (split) every second of every day.
Nope, I looked at the real point of the tale, as the BBC and others reported before the actual point of the tale is missed by many, King Canute actually was giving their subjects a lesson, the point I was making is that the current rulers of the republicans are pathetic cowards for not giving their [del]servs[/del] constituents a lesson like king Canute did, they should had told them a long time ago that ignoring science is bananas and they should not ignore what nature will do with all the CO2 we are adding to the atmosphere.
Instead the real lesson of the tale is ignored and both Republican leaders and constituents miss the point and do ignore science and pretend that they can order the oceans to ignore what was found to be happening.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/07/03/us-usa-northcarolina-idUSBRE86217I20120703
At this point it would be madness to tinker with the tax system in any way that does not increase revenue.
The government does not have a revenue problem, it has a spending problem!