# Climate Scientists are Mass Murderers!!!One1 **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 4, 2012, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/climate-scientists-are-mass-murderers-one1/620909 "2012-05-04T18:46:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2012, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/climate-scientists-are-mass-murderers-one1/620909/21 "2012-05-05T05:05:06Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > To me it is horrible in the extreme that it does not bother one bit to outfits like the Heartland Institute that they continue to spew the same lies that guys like Braivik swallowed hook line and sinker. What makes you think they even disapprove of him? ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2012, 8:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/climate-scientists-are-mass-murderers-one1/620909/22 "2012-05-05T08:10:19Z")
“Hi, I’m Charles Manson. Back in 1969 I ran a cult in the desert and I commanded my followers to kill a bunch of people in order to start a race war. Or maybe I was upset over a record deal. I’m not really sure. The point is I’m one stone cold crazy motherfucker. But even I’m not crazy enough to deny global warming. C’mon the evidence is overwhelming and every informed scientist on earth is in agreement. You’d have to be really nuts to deny global warming is real. Like the fine folks at Heartland Institute. Take it from me, Charles Manson, those guys are crazy and I know crazy.” ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2012, 10:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/climate-scientists-are-mass-murderers-one1/620909/23 "2012-05-05T10:25:29Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > “Hi, I’m Charles Manson. Back in 1969 I ran a cult in the desert and I commanded my followers to kill a bunch of people in order to start a race war. Or maybe I was upset over a record deal. I’m not really sure. The point is I’m one stone cold crazy motherfucker. But even I’m not crazy enough to deny global warming. C’mon the evidence is overwhelming and every informed scientist on earth is in agreement. You’d have to be really nuts to deny global warming is real. Like the fine folks at Heartland Institute. Take it from me, Charles Manson, those guys are crazy and I know crazy.” My name is wolf kabob Roth vantage, and I approve of this message. Do you feel blame ? ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2012, 10:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/climate-scientists-are-mass-murderers-one1/620909/24 "2012-05-05T10:49:52Z")
GIGO, thanks for including the link to [that page with links to companies funding the Heartland Institute](http://www.shawnotto.com/neorenaissance/blog20120505.html). I started off the morning with emails to a couple of them, explaining why I would be doing my level best to minimize my future business with them. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2012, 11:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/climate-scientists-are-mass-murderers-one1/620909/25 "2012-05-05T11:31:41Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > GIGO, thanks for including the link to [that page with links to companies funding the Heartland Institute](http://www.shawnotto.com/neorenaissance/blog20120505.html). I started off the morning with emails to a couple of them, explaining why I would be doing my level best to minimize my future business with them. Switching to Linux, then, are we? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Shoujin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoujin/32/3884_2.png) [@Shoujin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoujin)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2012, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/climate-scientists-are-mass-murderers-one1/620909/26 "2012-05-05T12:25:36Z")
Ah, The Heartland Institute. Nice rational argument y’all have on that there billboard. Just keep diggin’ that hole, now. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2012, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/climate-scientists-are-mass-murderers-one1/620909/27 "2012-05-05T13:15:58Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > I notice our resident deniers seem to be avoiding this thread. What would you have them say? ---
**Author:** ![Sailboat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sailboat/32/461_2.png) [@Sailboat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sailboat)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2012, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/climate-scientists-are-mass-murderers-one1/620909/28 "2012-05-05T14:11:27Z")
I think it’s important to distinguish between their _position_, which is insane, and their _selves_, who are not so much “insane” as “willing to kill and displace others for money.” They have to realize their position will eventually result in death and misery, but right now they themselves are getting paid to espouse it, and they don’t expect to be around when the resulting crisis peaks. It’s more a ruthless selfishness than it is inability to comprehend the science – the difference between “evil” and “dumb or insane.” ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2012, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/climate-scientists-are-mass-murderers-one1/620909/29 "2012-05-05T14:25:18Z")
> [@Sailboat](#): > > It’s more a ruthless selfishness than it is inability to comprehend the science – the difference between “evil” and “dumb or insane.” Now, in all fairness, some are probably all three. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2012, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/climate-scientists-are-mass-murderers-one1/620909/30 "2012-05-05T15:33:17Z")
> [@Sailboat](#): > > the difference between “evil” and “dumb or insane.” Evil = what they actually are Insane = what they’re acting like Dumb = their target audience ---
**Author:** ![Jenaroph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e8c25b/32.png) [@Jenaroph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jenaroph)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2012, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/climate-scientists-are-mass-murderers-one1/620909/31 "2012-05-05T16:01:44Z")
> [@JKellyMap](#): > > Switching to Linux, then, are we? 😉 As is mentioned in the comments on that page, there’s a difference between supporting and _supporting._ [http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2012/02/16/426351/microsoft-disavows-heartland-institutes-climate-denial-says-contributions-just-free-software-licenses/?mobile=nc](http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2012/02/16/426351/microsoft-disavows-heartland-institutes-climate-denial-says-contributions-just-free-software-licenses/?mobile=nc) Microsoft offers free software licenses to non-profit organizations. Heartland requested them. Microsoft granted them. That appears to be the sum total of their “support.” Kind of the like the Rush Limbaugh advertiser list, I wonder if there’s a few errors on that list. It’s good to see companies rushing to disavow Heartland, in any case. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2012, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/climate-scientists-are-mass-murderers-one1/620909/32 "2012-05-05T20:00:30Z")
It would appear, then, that the demographic of people likely to be angry at a company that promotes pusbuckets like Heartland is big enough to tighten the sphincters of the Marketing Department. Which is an interesting development just by itself. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2012, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/climate-scientists-are-mass-murderers-one1/620909/33 "2012-05-05T22:11:54Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > It would appear, then, that the demographic of people likely to be angry at a company that promotes pusbuckets like Heartland is big enough to tighten the sphincters of the Marketing Department. Which is an interesting development just by itself. That, or the PR departments of large companies are staffed by gigantic pussies whose entire job it is to withdraw out at the slightest hint of any controversy whatsoever with a quickness. ---
**Author:** ![waterj2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/858c86/32.png) [@waterj2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/waterj2)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2012, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/climate-scientists-are-mass-murderers-one1/620909/34 "2012-05-05T22:20:05Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > That, or the PR departments of large companies are staffed by gigantic pussies whose entire job it is to withdraw out at the slightest hint of any controversy whatsoever with a quickness. And then they find a new group to support that isn’t as notorious yet, and repeat the process a few years down the road. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2012, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/climate-scientists-are-mass-murderers-one1/620909/35 "2012-05-05T23:00:03Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > That, or the PR departments of large companies are staffed by gigantic pussies whose entire job it is to withdraw out at the slightest hint of any controversy whatsoever with a quickness. MAYOR QUINBY: Not now, Lisa! I’m in a meeting here with representatives of corporate sponsors to plan the Jedediah Springfield Day festivities! LISA: Do you realize you’re honoring a murderous pirate?! SUIT: A pirate! Well, that’s hardly the image we want for Long John Silver’s! [leaves] ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2012, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/climate-scientists-are-mass-murderers-one1/620909/36 "2012-05-05T23:03:52Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > It would appear, then, that the demographic of people likely to be angry at a company that promotes pusbuckets like Heartland is big enough to tighten the sphincters of the Marketing Department. Which is an interesting development just by itself. OTOH, there are **some** corporations who have a bottom-line **reason** to support the Heartland Institute or something like it, no matter how unpopular it gets, because any action taken to stop global warming would hurt their bottom lines even worse. ---
**Author:** ![gamerunknown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6bbea6/32.png) [@gamerunknown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gamerunknown)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2012, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/climate-scientists-are-mass-murderers-one1/620909/37 "2012-05-06T16:09:03Z")
I don’t blame them. Inductive reasoning is tricky. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2012, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/climate-scientists-are-mass-murderers-one1/620909/38 "2012-05-07T00:07:21Z")
> [@gamerunknown](#): > > I don’t blame them. Inductive reasoning is tricky. **Science** is tricky. ---
**Author:** ![Anne\_Neville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Anne\_Neville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anne_Neville)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2012, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/climate-scientists-are-mass-murderers-one1/620909/39 "2012-05-07T13:36:28Z")
> [@The\_Man\_With\_The\_Golden\_Gun](#): > > Wouldn’t surprise me one bit if climate scientists turn out to be mass murderers. > > I mean, you can only take so much idiotic bullshit from global warming deniers before snapping. I used to do computer support for a group of scientists that included some climate scientists. The climate scientists had a reputation for not being very nice, and for being the users you didn’t want to deal with. There was some speculation that this was because their results made them depressed and angry. Of course, whether they’re nice or not doesn’t really have much to do with whether their results are accurate. We’d have to throw out all of Newtonian physics if we were using that standard. ---
**Author:** ![LonesomePolecat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a88e57/32.png) [@LonesomePolecat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LonesomePolecat)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2012, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/climate-scientists-are-mass-murderers-one1/620909/40 "2012-05-07T14:53:04Z")
Meh. They’re no sillier than PETA’s billboards equating meat-eating with the Holocaust. In any case, [the billboard ads have been pulled](http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=heartland+institute+billboard+campaign&gbv=2&oq=heartland+institute+billboard+campaign&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_l=hp.3...640.10547.0.10828.58.24.5.25.20.3.297.3330.0j9j8.17.0...0.0.T9QLkpLKfuk). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/climate-scientists-are-mass-murderers-one1/620909.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/climate-scientists-are-mass-murderers-one1/620909.md?page=3)