# ClimateGate 2.0? Are you fucking kidding me?

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**Created:** [November 27, 2011, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/climategate-2-0-are-you-fucking-kidding-me/604243 "2011-11-27T15:39:17Z")\
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**Post date:** [November 29, 2011, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/climategate-2-0-are-you-fucking-kidding-me/604243/150 "2011-11-29T18:08:28Z")

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> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> The amazing thing is, this is the exact same approach I use in other contexts, and it doesn’t draw this response: people make predictions, and I ask what would and wouldn’t falsify 'em; I then draw conclusions accordingly, replying with statements that don’t similarly provoke insults or seem to strike a nerve.

I noticed the same sort of thing a couple of years ago, after the first set of data and emails was released, after it was sorted out that they were real emails, not some huge joke.

Rather than discuss the emails, the “conversations” were mostly acrimony and insults from the “alarmists”, directed at the “deniers”, with no middle ground allowed. From another topic here:

> [@Climatologist Dr. Michael Mann completely vindicated...again.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/climatologist-dr-michael-mann-completely-vindicated-again/593724/262):
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> Waldo’s question seems pretty clear to me. At the end of the day, a scientific hypothesis asserts that something will NOT happen. If the global warming hypothesis doesn’t rule out any possibilities (or at least make those possibilities unlikely), then it’s not a scientific hypothesis.

I admit I was a bit shocked to discover that when simple scientific questions were brought up, predicated by real problems in research, rather than educate and inform, the “warmists” spewed forth invective and made everything personal. It really seemed like a religion, and one that didn’t like having it’s secret documents spread around the internet.

Much like this topic, where the last thing being discussed is the actual pilfered documents and emails.

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