# ClimateGate 2.0? Are you fucking kidding me?

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**Created:** [November 27, 2011, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/climategate-2-0-are-you-fucking-kidding-me/604243 "2011-11-27T15:39:17Z")\
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**Post date:** [November 29, 2011, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/climategate-2-0-are-you-fucking-kidding-me/604243/160 "2011-11-29T18:57:39Z")

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> [@brazil84](#):
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> By the way, would you mind linking to this post? I would be curious to see it.

Sure.

> [@I hereby pit the gang of hypocritical deniers "debating" GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hereby-pit-the-gang-of-hypocritical-deniers-debating-gigobuster/595281/72):
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> > I am just asking the simple question: “If AGW models are incorrect, what future event would show it?”
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> At its simplest, the future would show that, besides not warming, it would cool down to levels like on the 70’s as the current evidence shows what the temperature should be with no human made CO2 in the atmosphere.

It goes on from there, but that’s a pretty good starting point: besides not warming, it would need to cool down to some point X – such that cooling down to some point A or B or C wouldn’t do it, even if it never again rose back up to where we are now.

(Keep reading that thread and he soon clarifies that even said drop to '70s levels would only falsify part of the theory; the whole thing would go out the window if even more cooling resulted, but he’s coy about exactly how much more – short of a second ice age – would suffice.)

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